Im gonna stop playing Aces with poor kickers

02-09-2005, 02:29 PM

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wow...I cant believe some people's thought about Ace with Low Kickers...Ace is an Ace is an Ace...first off there is 4 in a deck THATS it..if one comes on the flop that leaves 2 ACES left..1 outta 25 thats and you are worried about someone with a higher kicker...Ace 8 you now have a 50% chance of having a higher hand if someone managed to get another ace.. Unless someone is Slow playing there Ace King Ace Queen or Ace Jack you should already know by there raises if they have you beat...again PLAY THE PEOPLE NOT THE CARDS..no matter what the ace is I will play the Acemaybe not call a raise but I will see a flop 95% of the time..and really for the people with the fake table's stop it...if you are losing that often to an Ace maybe u should go play checkers.

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i totally disagree

yes there are only 4 aces - the problem being that when the cards are dealt most players will play an ace - so its not like making a pair of 5s where you dont have to worry about the other 5 as its been folded, someone will more than likely still be in the hand. The main problem being that when it comes to a split pot your gonna get your ass kicked more times than you win.

Start using pokertracker or something similar - after 2000 hands or whatever look back at your stats and see the % of hands won with AX and the % of hands won. It will surprise you.

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02-09-2005, 03:11 PM

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since yesterday i havent been calling with Ace with a low kicker (unsuited of course).

I used to occasionally call these hoping to catch the kicker as well but over the course of time i think these hands will lose you a helluva lot more than theyll win.

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i agree with this fonz. im always tempted to play the hands just of the ace, but in the end your losing more than your winning

02-09-2005, 03:38 PM

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also - remember this doesnt apply to acex suited

02-09-2005, 03:41 PM

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i like that hand better than pocket aces....every time i get aces in the whole i lose...whats up with that...im not gonna go thru the scenario with ya but it always ends up with someone staying with king jack offsuit and the end up getting 2 pair..thats ridiculous

02-09-2005, 03:43 PM

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You should never play aces period unless you go all in.

02-09-2005, 03:44 PM

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i agree with this fonz. im always tempted to play the hands just of the ace, but in the end your losing more than your winning

watch the howard lederer video he says all new people to poker get caught up playing and ace no matter what the kicker is....its a shame cuz i use to do it and now that i dont it saves me alot of money$$$$$$$$$$$

02-09-2005, 04:03 PM

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I love to play A anything suited...if I have A low kicker unsuited it all depends on the bet and what is flopped....sometimes i get lucky sometimes I fold

02-09-2005, 06:09 PM

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the problem with play money is that its way too loose - people dont care what they do as they can refill their account at any time. Ive also read that it can harm your game in the short run - ie. when you first start playing for real money, you play looser than you should because thats what your used to.

instead of playing at play money tables (which are too loose) id reccomend playing the 1 cent tables and then move up once you are making a profit.

excellent suggestion. I highly reccomend this strategy. Play money is good for about 2 weeks if you play a lot or about a month if you play 30 minutes a day but after a while it will harm your game. I got really good at play money tournaments and games to the point I was never losing (well not really but I was winning more than most people) and when I got into real money games I lost. Now my confidence is shaken and I know now that I will only get better by playing (and losing) real money. When you are playing low stakes the threat is there so it keeps the game honest enough where you can really learn to play.

02-11-2005, 01:12 AM

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I will play A 2 or A3 if it suited mabye even A 4 suited but A5 through A10 i won't unless it is down to four of less people. On a table with four or less i'll Make A decent size bet on just the Ace no matter what the kicker is. It may burn you if someone goes over the top, but then i'll probably just fold or goe all-in if I think they are tring to steal the pot. and nobody I repeat nobody steals my pot.

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