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| Power of position Theory, Advice, Strategies  |
07-22-2005, 08:44 PM
| | | | Power of position Ive read a lot of things on postion, and I will give you my two cents of it...
You have position on the players to your right (since you act after them most of the time), players on your left have position on you (since they usually act after you.) Hold'em is a VERY positional game. Money tends to flow clockwise around the table, hence you want position on the players who are giving a lot and give position to players that aren't taking much. Acting last is huge because many players will auto-bet when checked to as last to act. By acting last yourself, you have the option to steal or take the free card.
Now that you know position means you're the last to act. Here's why it matters.
When you have Position, then you have More Information than anyone else at the table. You've seen what others are going to do (bet, check or raise, or fold to a previous bet) and you can infer the strength of their cards based on that.
Then you get to decide what you're going to do. If it's bet and raised before it gets to you then you need really great cards to stay in. If everyone checks to you, then you might be able to assume they are weak and bet to steal (or take the hand) or check to get a free card to improve your hand.
You can play slightly poorer cards if you have position, because you aren't acting "in the dark" (i.e. without information). BUT, and this is important, you have to act on the information you get. Don't ignore it.
Advanced poker is a game of INFORMATION. Getting it, giving it, giving false information, etc. How people bet and from what position they do it gives you information. How they played previous hands is information you can use. I just called a guy All In in a 3 table $30 tournament. I had trip 9's. I have pocket 9's and call preflop (because I'm out of position - Position matters). The board flops a 9 and 2 clubs. I bet strong, he calls. The river is a 3rd club. I bet strong, he goes AI. I call and win the hand. HOW DID I KNOW HE WAS BLUFFING? I had noticed over the course of the game that when he hesitates for a while before doing an agressive act (like betting or raising) that he had a monster hand. But when he DIDN'T hesitate before an agressive move, that he was bluffing or had 2nd best hand (like top pair with a bad kicker).
Another way to get information is to throw out a bet. Here you're Buying information. Preflop you have whatever (it doesn't matter) and the flop misses you. But you think it missed the other guy too. You're in early position. You throw out a bet and see what comes back - a fold, call or raise. A fold is good, a raise is good too! you now have information. A call gives less information.
INFORMATION = MONEY. Position = More information | |
07-22-2005, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MZZUTC Ive read a lot of things on postion, and I will give you my two cents of it...
You have position on the players to your right (since you act after them most of the time), players on your left have position on you (since they usually act after you.) Hold'em is a VERY positional game. Money tends to flow clockwise around the table, hence you want position on the players who are giving a lot and give position to players that aren't taking much. Acting last is huge because many players will auto-bet when checked to as last to act. By acting last yourself, you have the option to steal or take the free card.
Now that you know position means you're the last to act. Here's why it matters.
When you have Position, then you have More Information than anyone else at the table. You've seen what others are going to do (bet, check or raise, or fold to a previous bet) and you can infer the strength of their cards based on that.
Then you get to decide what you're going to do. If it's bet and raised before it gets to you then you need really great cards to stay in. If everyone checks to you, then you might be able to assume they are weak and bet to steal (or take the hand) or check to get a free card to improve your hand.
You can play slightly poorer cards if you have position, because you aren't acting "in the dark" (i.e. without information). BUT, and this is important, you have to act on the information you get. Don't ignore it.
Advanced poker is a game of INFORMATION. Getting it, giving it, giving false information, etc. How people bet and from what position they do it gives you information. How they played previous hands is information you can use. I just called a guy All In in a 3 table $30 tournament. I had trip 9's. I have pocket 9's and call preflop (because I'm out of position - Position matters). The board flops a 9 and 2 clubs. I bet strong, he calls. The river is a 3rd club. I bet strong, he goes AI. I call and win the hand. HOW DID I KNOW HE WAS BLUFFING? I had noticed over the course of the game that when he hesitates for a while before doing an agressive act (like betting or raising) that he had a monster hand. But when he DIDN'T hesitate before an agressive move, that he was bluffing or had 2nd best hand (like top pair with a bad kicker).
Another way to get information is to throw out a bet. Here you're Buying information. Preflop you have whatever (it doesn't matter) and the flop misses you. But you think it missed the other guy too. You're in early position. You throw out a bet and see what comes back - a fold, call or raise. A fold is good, a raise is good too! you now have information. A call gives less information.
INFORMATION = MONEY. Position = More information | MZZUTC,
Credit should be given, where credit is due. Please provide links to the sites you get this information from. In this case it was... www.flopturnriver.com. http://www.flopturnriver.com/Texas-H...-Position.html
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07-22-2005, 08:57 PM
| | | | Your all over that like a fat kid on a cup cake... Never knew, will do for some of the other material i will be posting  | |
07-22-2005, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by MZZUTC Your all over that like a fat kid on a cup cake... Never knew, will do for some of the other material i will be posting  | I've been all over and remembered reading both articles from that site. Otherwise i would have thought you wrote it yourself.  Good articles on strategy are always useful, as long as you put in a link to where you got the material. "all over that like a fat kid on a cupcake"??....now that was funny. I'm still sitting at work laughing at that one. We all need a good chuckle from time to time  .
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