Bad players can cost you a lot of money

In NL games, they won't get out of a hand no matter how much you bet...then they get lucky and beat you, by hitting a miracle draw or the board lay's out a fourth suited card that matches their rags and busts your quality hand.

Another way is...I was just in a ring game "limit"...now one player has an 8 to match the 2 eight's on board and it is obvious...however I am sandwiched between that player and a rookie with an obvious pp that wont even beat the 8's...but he keeps raising and letting the eight's re-raise untill it is capped...now I'm setting there with a str8 and flush draw and pp higher than the 8's and have to keep putting into the pot because of this numbskull....its flustrating...of course the tripp 8's won....the numbskull went bust in about 4 more hands, however that didn't help in the hand that he was in with me....he had money to burn then...in fact he had both mine and his money to burn then!

OUch that hurts.But wherever you play youre going to run into different levels of players.IVe run across a few tables that way where they are very loose or just havent played enough to know they need to get out of the hand.

Alot of our beats are by bad players Im sure .....but less then we think really.
Aot of them have good cards... that are just not as good... and find a way to win.
Some are trying to bluff you... but being the good player you are ...you catch them ...but the turn or river goes against you.
Some players may think you are bluffing and make bad call and then catch.

You are the one who told me about doyles suited connectors...when you use that and catch trips on 56 suited to beat AA is that a bad beat?
Everyone has their own style and their own cards they play...maybe we arent getting bad beats,maybe we are getting beat by hands we dont like to play.
Getting beat on the river is a tough loss especially if someone chased...whats wrong with chasing?Are we suppose to give up just because someone has the best hand after the flop?
They throw five out there for a reason.
This isnt at you C.S or anyone else I know,let me make that clear.

It seems theres just more bad losers out there than there are bad beats

Was watching a table yesterday where a guy said he had won a 100 dollar tourney on Full Tilt.
He had the bowels to critisize two players who called his raise....one with AQ and one with KJ while all 3 were playing in a 10mtt.This was after he lost the hand.If he had won it would be ok.

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Its one thing to chase xtra...but it is a totally different story when you have a losing hand...it is obvious what the winner has...there is no way that you can make your hand a winning hand outside of a mirace and yet you keep raising into the winning hand and then let the winning hand keep re-raising you!...yes he could have won...if he had a runner runner matching the cards in his hand for quads....but I don't know if its smart to keep re-raising figuring that it was going to happen.

I agree with you 100% on that.But if he knew he had no chance of winning he wouldnt be betting.

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Not to pick on you, but your straight + flush draw is an easy fold here. The board is paired, one of your enemies may already have a full house, and if he doesn't he could make one on the same card that makes your hand. What I like to call, drawing dead and getting there, it's one of the worst things that can happen to you.

Do yourself a favor, fold straight and flush draws when the board is paired.

--Bonkey

Here is what you should do when faced with that kind of situation.

Get up from the table. Go grab some drink and go find another table. LOL.

Honestly. So much money is lost be decent players who refuse to leave a table that is a loser for them and search for an easier table to take down.

I was playing a really agressive table the other day. Stuck it an hour to hardly make anything from the table.

If I had just gotten up and looked around I probably could have found me a nice table to play at and would have spared myself the aggrivation.

Lol true that Monkey =] - It's all about the relocation when you run into random lucky players.

I agree with bonkey, a pair on the board is every draw situations worst enemy. It opens up trips, and the fullhouse. When I'm playing a flush and there is a pair on the board I always have to reevaluate my situation and I have lost a few times in that situation with a K high flush when the other player has a fullhouse (of course you can't fold the K high flush).

indica

I have to say that my biggest wins have been a result of terrible play by opponents. In one of my rare excursions into a 50$ 2 table tourney. There were three players in that game who had no clue what they were doing. They doubled through either through players timid of their crazy bluffs or on 50/50s. the other players didnt know how to deal with them, got involved in 50/50's and lost or got bluffed out of key pots or worse still tried to bluff these morons. The morons got all the good players chips I picked my spots and got all the morons chips. Its all about spotting the morons and picking spots against them and adapting your game.

I am strongly of the few that if your not willing to be knocked out of a tourney when you are a three to 1 favourite then dont put yourself in that situation. Avoid all ins except against short stacks. If you were playing in a 2500 player tourney and you only got your chips from all ins and every time you went all in you were going to double up or get knocked out. you would have to survive 6 hands to get into the top 50. If you were doubling up on 70%'s you would only get into the top 50 12% of the time. You could be playing well within your system and rarely reach the later stages of the tourney. I take the view that I am more than happy for someone to call will a 20% chance of winning - if I lose i am still glad they called BUT i try to avoid all ins if they have a decent chance of knocking me out and I select my hands in MTT's to target short stacks on hands where I have little chance of getting the nuts but are otherwise good hands.

Your right Ben, as Brunson said...don't get fancy with new players and don't try to bluff them...they don't understand things and will stay in hands that they don't belong in and then will get lucky and outdraw you...he said just play them straight away.