Crapshoot:
This is the basis of your argument.
"Once an all-in hand is exposed where a player has pp it does not make much difference how much higher the opponents unpaired hand is"
"if the unpaired hand is hit and the paired hand does not hit"
I shall argue for AKo;
Here is your original statistics,
Ac Kh ..vs.. 5d 5s = AKo win 45% .. 55 win 55%
8c 6h ..vs.. 5d 5s = 86o win 46% .. 55 win 54%
Not a clear cut case exactly 1%
Same players:
86o believes that his opp. has pocket fives but actually holds AKo
Ac Kh ..vs.. 8d 6s = Ac Kh win 63% .. 8d 6s win 37%
86o is a little under a 2 -to- 1 underdog in this situation
Lets try a higher pocket pair
Ac Kh ..vs.. 9d 9s // AKo win 44% .. 99 win 56%
8c 6h ..vs.. 9d 9s // 86o win 15% .. 99 win 85%
Your argument is demonstrated here. The over cards are a coin flip situation 1-to-1 or 50:50 if your 2 hole cards are higher than your opp. pocket pair.
So now we must ask the question why is 86o a favorite over AKo heads up versus a pair of fives.
I believe this is because of the 86o ability to negate the pocket fives ability to redraw to a straight. Why is this: Because 2 cards that help complete a 4 card board straight are missing and if middle cards come 86 can make a higher straight were it would defeat AK w/ the same hand. This is only a small percentage.
A flush redraw is an example of the effect of a redraw on a hands winning %.
The addition of a flush redraw bumps us a little higher
8d 6d win 48.923% vs. 5d 5s win 51.077% *note : 1 diamond is gone = 1 flush card
8h 6h win 49.156% vs. 5d 5s win 50.844% 11 flush cards vs 10 fc = .233%
Poker players stick with AK vs 86 suited or unsuited.
Why because AK is only gonna be a major under dog to two hands AA and KK.
AA vs AK 93% .. 7%
KK vs AK 70% .. 30%
QQ vs AK 57% .. 43% <---------Only a slight underdog to all pairs under KK
77 vs AK 56% .. 44% <---------86o is still a 2-to-1 underdog
22 vs AK 53% .. 47%
Whereas 86o is a underdog to ALOT of hands AA, KK, AK, KT, TT, 88, 87o, 96o to name a few.
Not alot of equity if you ask me.
A few more statistics
Lets try AKo and 86s vs any of the 169 diff. hands (random)
AKo vs. Random hand. 2 billion hands sim.
AK win 65% vs. Random 35%
86s vs Random hand. 2 billion hands sim.
86 Suited win 46% vs. Random 54%
Poker Stove Statistics (avg. # of games sim 1.7 mil.)
To make the 86 offsuit call in a ten handed NL tournament. Conditions must apply.
Postion: Hold'em is a position game
Very positive pot odds: 2.5-to-1 or higher (debatable)
Comparison of all-in bet to your stack: Rarely will you dominate so you must be o.k. with a coin flip situation at BEST. If it is in the mid to late stages of a tournament and the bet is an all in, that is small in comparison to the blinds. A call may be correct.
The always important: Opponent and will he go all in with small pocket pair
Your the late great Stu Ungar
Oneday