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Old 04-28-2005, 01:35 AM
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Default Complete list of pocket cards with values

I am starting this new thread off of Zaphors thread "Tip 4 playing tight"...beacuse it is getting lost and I feel that a lot of members might want to copy and past it.

Here is a complete list of your pocket cards in order of value. I made this up a while ago...I believe the blacks are the top half and the reds are the bottom half for a quick reference....the numbers next to them are their order of importance.

Sorry it took me some time to get this put up...but is a complete list that you can copy and print out for reference. If you want it in a larger format...ask and I will prepare it!

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Well I don't know about anyone else but the print is so small I can't read it. Is there a way to increase the size?
  
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I will reformat and make it larger Starlight.

This one is larger:

http://img249.echo.cx/img249/6269/pocketcardsa7nc.jpg

This file will give you a fair size in landscape form...click to enlarge once, then file print

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Hold your cursor over it until a box appears in the bottom right hand corner. Then click that box and it will decompress.
  
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Very nice crapshoot. I like it. This can be VERY helpful for players just starting out in poker.
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Thx for the list Crapshoot, I have to admit that I didn't know that a 35s was stronger than an unsuited A9, or that A/low kickers were rated so low.

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great post crapshoot. it answers alot of questions. i'll use it late in a tourney when i'm only playing top hands.
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This list is helpfun to new players, but you actually need to understand whats evaluated. Are you rating percentages before the flop, or what I would rather see? ex: I would much rather see AKs because its a safe hand, than pocket 8's (at worst you figure to be a slight underdog, unless the ambiguous case of someone somehow nabbing 2 of the other three aces or kings) but if you run these hands in a showdown the 8's win more often.
And BTW ace 9 offsuit is better than 3-5 suited.
In general overpairs to underpairs win 4 of 5 times, when cards are shared the better hand wins 3 of 4 times (AK-KQ), pocket pairs are almost a coin flip agains any overs, and one over to a pocket pair will win about 1 of 4 times. This is roughly what I think of when playing a hand pre-flop, and I can think of my own list this way.
  
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in a 9-player ring game, hands like AKs are better, as it is a drawing hand and the winning hand is likely to be a straight or a flush. Heads up, 22 is more effective as there are only two players and the chances of a straight or flush are slimmer, so there is a bigger chance that the low pair of deuces will hold out.

BRIEF: the more players in a hand, the less effective low pocket pairs are, and the more effective hands like AKs are.
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This list is helpfun to new players, but you actually need to understand whats evaluated. Are you rating percentages before the flop, or what I would rather see? ex: I would much rather see AKs because its a safe hand, than pocket 8's (at worst you figure to be a slight underdog, unless the ambiguous case of someone somehow nabbing 2 of the other three aces or kings) but if you run these hands in a showdown the 8's win more often.
And BTW ace 9 offsuit is better than 3-5 suited.
In general overpairs to underpairs win 4 of 5 times, when cards are shared the better hand wins 3 of 4 times (AK-KQ), pocket pairs are almost a coin flip agains any overs, and one over to a pocket pair will win about 1 of 4 times. This is roughly what I think of when playing a hand pre-flop, and I can think of my own list this way.
knight...this was done the only way that you could establish the values and that was with 10 million computer hands figuring that all 9 players stayed on untill the river.

Now maybe you can understand how all those "bad beats" come about...although I don't recommend staying in with them...you will get killed in a NL game.
  
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