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| Complete list of pocket cards with values Theory, Advice, Strategies  | |
04-28-2005, 01:35 AM
| | | | Complete list of pocket cards with values I am starting this new thread off of Zaphors thread "Tip 4 playing tight"...beacuse it is getting lost and I feel that a lot of members might want to copy and past it.
Here is a complete list of your pocket cards in order of value. I made this up a while ago...I believe the blacks are the top half and the reds are the bottom half for a quick reference....the numbers next to them are their order of importance.
Sorry it took me some time to get this put up...but is a complete list that you can copy and print out for reference. If you want it in a larger format...ask and I will prepare it! http://img113.echo.cx/img113/5899/pocketcards3qt.jpg | |
04-28-2005, 01:42 AM
| | | | Well I don't know about anyone else but the print is so small I can't read it. Is there a way to increase the size? | |
04-28-2005, 01:53 AM
| | | | Hold your cursor over it until a box appears in the bottom right hand corner. Then click that box and it will decompress. | |
04-28-2005, 04:57 AM
| | | | Very nice crapshoot. I like it. This can be VERY helpful for players just starting out in poker. | |
04-28-2005, 05:23 AM
| | | | Thx for the list Crapshoot, I have to admit that I didn't know that a 35s was stronger than an unsuited A9, or that A/low kickers were rated so low.
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04-28-2005, 02:40 PM
| | | | great post crapshoot. it answers alot of questions. i'll use it late in a tourney when i'm only playing top hands.
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i'm sorry, did you have pocket aces?
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04-30-2005, 10:55 PM
| | | | This list is helpfun to new players, but you actually need to understand whats evaluated. Are you rating percentages before the flop, or what I would rather see? ex: I would much rather see AKs because its a safe hand, than pocket 8's (at worst you figure to be a slight underdog, unless the ambiguous case of someone somehow nabbing 2 of the other three aces or kings) but if you run these hands in a showdown the 8's win more often.
And BTW ace 9 offsuit is better than 3-5 suited.
In general overpairs to underpairs win 4 of 5 times, when cards are shared the better hand wins 3 of 4 times (AK-KQ), pocket pairs are almost a coin flip agains any overs, and one over to a pocket pair will win about 1 of 4 times. This is roughly what I think of when playing a hand pre-flop, and I can think of my own list this way. | |
04-30-2005, 11:21 PM
| | | | in a 9-player ring game, hands like AKs are better, as it is a drawing hand and the winning hand is likely to be a straight or a flush. Heads up, 22 is more effective as there are only two players and the chances of a straight or flush are slimmer, so there is a bigger chance that the low pair of deuces will hold out.
BRIEF: the more players in a hand, the less effective low pocket pairs are, and the more effective hands like AKs are.
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04-30-2005, 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by knight48422 This list is helpfun to new players, but you actually need to understand whats evaluated. Are you rating percentages before the flop, or what I would rather see? ex: I would much rather see AKs because its a safe hand, than pocket 8's (at worst you figure to be a slight underdog, unless the ambiguous case of someone somehow nabbing 2 of the other three aces or kings) but if you run these hands in a showdown the 8's win more often.
And BTW ace 9 offsuit is better than 3-5 suited.
In general overpairs to underpairs win 4 of 5 times, when cards are shared the better hand wins 3 of 4 times (AK-KQ), pocket pairs are almost a coin flip agains any overs, and one over to a pocket pair will win about 1 of 4 times. This is roughly what I think of when playing a hand pre-flop, and I can think of my own list this way. | knight...this was done the only way that you could establish the values and that was with 10 million computer hands figuring that all 9 players stayed on untill the river.
Now maybe you can understand how all those "bad beats" come about...although I don't recommend staying in with them...you will get killed in a NL game. | | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | |
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