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Old 04-29-2005, 09:58 PM
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yeah if you can limp in with them or mibbe if you're on the small blind they're very deceptive, but you dont want to be risking any large percentage of your chips.... not really very useful for pairing (as scottishben said) but are more suited (no pun intended) for straight or flush drawing.
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Yeah good post Scotia,
I totaly agree. Its sometimes even an all in hand when your short stacked. I played in a 19man Sit and Go the other night on poker stars. I didnt realise the time and shouldnt of started the tournament, becuase i was working the next day. So I pretty much went all in every hand, unless is was a 7 2, 6 2 etc. I appologised to the rest of the players for the way i was playing and said to them i wanted my bed. I said whoever went all in next, i would call pre flop with whatever. 67suited was my first hand, caught a full house. I was trying to lose and kept winning. when it came down to 4players remaining i was big chip leeder, and realised i should play a bit more seriously. It was the easiest win and quickest Sit n Go ive ever played. Easy Money! Im having a good week, played in 8 sit and goes this week and ive won 5, second in 2 and 3rd in the wednesday THF(pot limit game). Pot limit does suck tho.

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It is obvious you're not talking about AKs or KQs because everyone knows how to play these. Suited cards like 45, 67 or 89 are indeed good cards. Let other people only play their pairs or offsuit face cards. As you say cards like these are easy to fold while you will almost go to a showdown with just pocket Kings or Queen. If the flop isn't any good then fold if you smell danger. But after the river if you have a straight or flush raise and reraise. You might lose to a higher straight or flush but you will win more often then lose. If you play like this in the long run you will profit.

Besides players will think you can not hold these kind of cards because that would be 'the wrong poker play'; you shouldn't call with low cards. They often think they have the best hand with top pair and top kicker and from those players you can win a lot.

If you raise 3 times the big blind you represent an Ace/King preflop. If an Ace or King shows on the flop you can bluf and raise so people will think you hit your hand. If you do hit your hand you can bet/raise too and people will think you didn't hit your hand and they will probably call. Don't slowplay in this kind of situation.

I would like to emphasize to fold if you didn't hit your hand and someone else raises. Never chase except if you have a lot of outs and it is cheap to see another card. Never take risks with low suited connectors. You do have to calculate your pot odds here. They can be just as strong as they can be weak. I recommend playing these in a SNG or in the later stages of a tournament.
  
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Besides players will think you can not hold these kind of cards because that would be 'the wrong poker play'; you shouldn't call with low cards. They often think they have the best hand with top pair and top kicker and from those players you can win a lot.
Exactly. That is why your opponent will not be scared to bet into you, as you will not be representing e.g- 6h 7h. It would seem like bad play to call with 6 7, so your hand remains 'hidden' - a huge advantage as you can make a huge dent in his stack.
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I totally agree. If you can play them for cheap, suited connectors have a high possibity of turing out to be a good hand.
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I would also like to point out that in the event of a few pre-flop raises with 3-4 callers, you can bet that most players are playing hands such as AK, KQ, AQ, AJ, ect. and are likely overlapped a bit. This probably doesn't mean a great deal if your playins low suited connectors (LSC's) as you wouldn't primarily be looking for pairs. I'd imagine that fact would still play into your hands a bit.
  
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I don't believe they are overvalued or undervalued. Suited connectors are not undervalued because it seems likle everyone has read supersystems and Doyle Praises them. He however states that you should never put in more of 5% of your chips or your opponents chips in before the flop. I have seen players in tournaments with large blinds call 20% of there stacks off with 7 high. This is generally a stupid play and a situation in which these hands are overrated. I play at pokerstars, however I do not like the tournament structure there, it forces preflop play and discourages from post flop play, where more skill is involved. When most of the moves are made before the flop suited connectors are weak.
  
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I DO however often play suited connectors in position at the cash games when I and my opponent have many chips and I have a chance to break them.
  
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plz read the second sentence of the first post
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Most of the time a nut str8...but not always...a board of T987 would give JQ the nut...but a good point Scotia!

I am glad you pointed that out becuase I dont think Brunson metions that in SS and I know that most people dont catch that exeption. You have to be playing both of your hole cards for it to be the nut straight.
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