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Hey yall, this is my first real post on the forums. Anyway, 90% of the games I play are Heads Up against my best friend, and seeing as I am in college and am still living off of my parents' money, I'm not going to bet loads of money on anything (until I make my own decent salary), but we usually play really small games, with $10 or $20 buy ins. SB/BB are (don't laugh) 25cents/50cents or 50cents/$1. We play mostly for honor anyway

Usually, it's pretty back and forth, and he wins one game and I win the next and so on, but recently I have gotten into a losing streak and am down $50 bucks (lost 3 $10 games and 1 $20 game).

People say that aggressive playing is key to Heads Up. I would say that I am a fairly loose player, raising on hands like QJ, AKs, AA, KK, AJ etc, calling on medium hands like Q4, K3, and everything else (I occasionally fold hands like 23 or 24 when I am shortstacked). However, my opponent is fairly tight, and although I've bluffed him out of some tight situations, him calling an aggressive bluff of mine usually ends up destroying me.

Because of this, I have changed my playing style to become a little tighter. My friend is also hard to read too, because we both have developed a style in which we check even though we flopped a nice hand, and then screw each other on the turn or the river (not sure what this tactic is called if it even has a name).

In short, aggressive playing has allowed me to steal a few blinds, but all in all, ends up kicking my ass, but maybe I'm just not doing it right, or maybe my bluffing skills are a bit lacking.

I would like to learn the secrets of learning Heads Up a bit more consistently. Please help, and also thanks for putting up with the length of this post!
  
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I would highly recommend you read "The Psychology of Poker" if you can get a chance between everything that comes with being in college. Trust me when I say I totally understand that reading for personal knowledge or pleasure is hard to come by while writing papers and reading boring articles (I'm teaching part time while I finish up my dissertation).

The best thing I can recommend is to play with others outside your core group. Your core group develops a unique unspoken language. By adding even one new person to the group, it upsets that balance. And you might make a new friend, or at least a new poker buddy.

Tightening up your game can only benefit you in the long run. Loose- Aggressive players may win a lot in a short time, but when it comes to the long run-they lose and usually lose horribly. I would also recommend you start a log where you can analyze how much you are really playing. Full Tilt and Pokerstars will give you stats. Plus keep stats at your home games. Any information will be useful. Although, you really need to log at least a thousand games before I think these stats are of any use. Cause you never know when the poker gods are going to smile upon you and when you are turned into the porta-potty guy (can't help but catch crap).

I'm sure the others will give you more detailed advice about heads up play. Listen to these players, they have a good sense of what to do in just about any situation. My only recommendation is to play more and analyze where your shortfalls are occurring. Remember to play the cards and not the player.
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You could maybe structure the blinds better for a more interesting game.

Playing with $10 at 50c big blinds really doesn't give you too much room to play.

If you look at a typical HU tourney scenario online, you'd start with 75 big blinds and then the blinds increase every x minutes. Hopefully that gives you some time to work out your opponent and time to offer him an image of your own play - and of course some time to get his chips with your good play (this differs to good starting hands, which of course you won't always get)

I think your post is difficult to answer in short.

HU can be a complex game and differing opponents means you approach games differently.
The idea is to play the opposite to how he thinks you're playing.

At times you may want to assume tightness, other times you will be betting a lot and putting pressure on him.

If like you say, your opponents is tight, you have an opportunity to steal
a lot of pots. You said you do that early in the game.

Use your position when your first to act preflop to make bets(usually you will be SB here) Use this often. No need to throw massive amounts at him.

You can be tighter from the BB generally (but can call to see flops if the odds are good) - of course - when you do raise from the BB, it appears much more powerful, simply because in his mind you've been tighter from that position.


You can keep your raises relatively small much of the time when the stacks are still big, chip away, steal and put pressure on him.
If he plays back...then to continue you must either:have a hand, make a succesful bluff, slow down and/or be prepared to fold when you know you're beat.

Generally, I'd say slow playing you good hands isn't the best strategy for lower level
players. Betting both your good hands and semi-bluffs may often pay better.
If you were facing a heavy raising opponent, then that may be the time to slow play a big hand. Let him raise into you.
If he wants to slow play his big hands - let him - just check it to him - hopefully you'll catch a card. Don't call his oversize turn/river bets unless you know you can beat him.

Generally with a good hand you want to build a pot worth winning. No real need
to slow play your tight opponent is there? Not in a game when you've already been raising a lot anyway. Keep your raising up.

At times you can raise often with nothing, raise with a little, raise with good draws, and raise with good hands. Frustrate him,
he'll play back sooner or later and when he does you either take his stack apart or you fold. With the steals you've accomplished you can afford to fold
Easy!

No, I'm kidding, it's not easy, and I find HU requires lots of concentration and also some reliable info that you can gather from your opponents play.

Well I hope some of that helps. I'm certainly no expert. I enjoy playing lower level HU games mostly but if you like HU play, then you've come to the right place. There is much info around the forums in previous posts that you could search out.

We also happen to have some professional HU players posting here. They are some of the best HU players online.

Good luck and let us know how you're getting on.
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Here are a few stategy guides written by some of our members. They are about tournament Heads Up, you could try those with your friend for a change.

http://www.texasholdemforums.com/mem...-up-guide.html (Scottishben's heads up guide)

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Many players have asked for a heads up guide. I am not the best heads up players in the world but in heads up matches I win about 75% and have a decent record if I reach heads up situations in sng’s. This guide is written from the point of view of a head up match where the blinds start real low and don’t force any action. It will be less relevant if you are talking heads up after a biggish tourney as the blinds will probably force the action a lot sooner.

There are 2 main stages of a heads up hand

1) preflop betting to 1st reraise on the flop
2) rest of the betting on the flop, turn and river

in the first stage it is not particularly important what cards you hold. You could actually make a profit never even looking at your cards. Now don’t get this wrong you are not going top want to fold AA or KK preflop but you can often bet on hands like 27os. You are looking to steal blinds but not to any great extent as the blinds are not really worth anything at this stage. Your main game is trying to exploit betting tendencies. If your opponent calls a moderate bet pre-flop with little then make him suffer from that when you have something. If he folds to moderate bets then do smaller bets/call when you want action and routinely bet on little. You should be prepared to fold plenty preflop if you feel that he is willing to invest plenty chips post flop or call biggish bets with little preflop as that way you will probably have much better hands when decent amounts of money are risked. That deals with standard bets but what about big bets…. Generally speaking I will fold these if I don’t have a monster AA, KK simply because I reckon that I will win games 75% of the time and calling such a bet where it could easily be 50/50 (eg AKs v 22 or JJ v AQ) makes that average pretty difficult. If you feel you are outclassed by your opponent then this kind of play is much more acceptable.

There is a rhythm to heads up preflop, get into the rhythm and exploit it. If you are not getting the rhythm you are acting in ignorance which is never where you want to be. Watch for subtle changes and adapt if need be.

OK on the flop. Some players will fold if they don’t have anything. These players are easy to exploit so long as you don’t make what you are doing (generally betting with nothing) too obvious. If you feel that they have a hand and you are making a good profit stealing pots with bets on the flop then you should often fold or just call bets sometimes even when you hold top pair. If you are up against someone who normally bets on the flop then there is some margin in check-raising or even slow-playing. It is important to remember that you will often not be making that many chips just by stealing the pot though so don’t get too excited. Even if your opponent bets, say on a flop of A84rainbow a re-raise with nothing is an excellent play as often your opponent doesn’t actually hold the cards and sometimes will even fold a paired A if they don’t lick their kicker. A re-raise will make them more cautious of betting on nothing in the future and will win you a decent number of chips. I prefer doing this kind of play when I have something to chase however. That way if their Ax just calls me (worried I have a better kicker but not about to fold the hand) there is a chance of me catching something that will win me the hand if they don’t fold. Something like if I hold 2s5s in the hand given if there is a spade on the board. That way if a 4 comes I have a straight and if 2 spade come I have a flush.

I would finally say that slow playing on something small like top pair that can be outdrawn is much more viable as a play than in a normal game. This is for 3 reasons 1) there is a much bigger margin of hands that they would play and on many of these hands there will sometimes be fewer ways for them to outdraw you 2)they often wont read you as having the hand that you do so will often call. Similarly they are more likely to bet on nothing “representing a hand” 3) it has psychological effects which can be exploited e.g. stopping them betting on nothing on the flop etc.

Anything after this and you really need to look at your cards. If you are making a solid profit in section 1 then you don’t want to get too involved in section 2. Reads that you can exploit against a player when there are others in the pot normally hold true in heads up. If there is something that you can exploit BIG then engineer hands to get to that possibility. Something like someone has difficultly folding top pair etc or will risk all his chips when he has the bottom straight when there are both higher straights and flushes on the board. If you are not making a big profit on section 1 then you have to be a little more involved. This can mean creative but really slowly eating away at your opponent’s chips is a better way to go if you can.

Beware of betting too much with less than the nuts. If there is a possible straight and you only have top pair or even 3 of a kind try not to be too much. Call rather than reraise on the river. That way if you are beaten you wont lose big. Sometimes you can rely on reads and bet big anyway – sometimes you will call them when they represent a straight in the believe that they don’t have it but capping hands when there is a moderate chance of being beaten is how you win heads up tourneys.

If you are up against someone doing a lot of heavy betting then you may have to take a stand against them. Depending on the blinds and the size of their bets will depend on what you need to make a stand. If you are good you want to avoid anything near 50/50.

When the chip stacks are unequal then the nature of the game changes. If the blinds are reasonably low then anything over 1/3 or your opponents stack and you don’t need to worry, it might affect marginal decisions, you wont have the chips to advertise to set up big pots or to chase on certain hands but you can more or less play the same way. If you get less than 1/3 of your opponents chips then they have you against the ropes. Thus you want to try real hard to avoid this position. If you get into this position you will often have to make a stand on a particular hand. Fortunately you will often be called but you can find yourself going out 40% of the time and if you win having the same amount of chips as your opponent. How you play here depends on how your opponent is playing but it will be a struggle for you to get back in it.

When the blinds are getting higher you need to get more aggressive. Often in sng’s when you get to heads up you are up against someone who plays a tight game and cannot change pace for heads up and aggressive play will win the match for you without you having to get clever or anything. If they catch a few monsters (AA, trips on the flop etc) then you might lose the odd game but normally you will win easily. Occasionally your opponents will be able to change their pace or will have got where they are through aggressive play. If the blinds are still low you can play tight and kill them with a hand but if the blinds are high you cannot concede many pots to them and may have to settle for a showdown where you only have a small edge eg a2 v kqs or something like that or a low boarded pair v a good draw. As the blinds get higher you need to start making more and more hands “fatal hands” ( hands that if called will lead to someone being knocked out). This is particularly true if you are short staked. When you are short stacked and the blinds are high then if you play a hand you have to be willing to risk all your chips in it!

If the blinds are high and you are about even staked then you probably want to avoid actually playing many hands on the flop as the pots will be hard to fold. Similarly you have to be more wary of playing trash if you think you will get called. Focus on the rhythms of the game and if you are gaining chips carry on with what you are doing, otherwise start betting big and forcing action.

It should be stressed that heads up is completely different from other poker. You need to approach it the same way you would approach playing tennis after playing badminton - it is that different.

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Heads up play is probably one of the least understood concepts in poker, as most strategy is geared towards full table play. Think about it… we rarely play heads up. The only practice a lot of players get in heads up is when either the tourney goes heads up, or the SB/BB confrontations. But, with some good strategy, and knowing some simple facts, heads up can be much easier.
· Fact 1: There are 1,326 different possible starting hands in Hold ‘Em. There are 78 ways to make a possible pocket pair preflop. That means that you will only hold a pocket pair 1 out of every 8 hands on average.
· Fact 2: If one player only gets a pocket pair 1 out of 8 hands, the odds of both players having a pocket pair preflop drops to 1 in 17. This means that the majority of confrontations in heads up play are just pocket pair vs. big cards, or big cards vs. big cards. If you have a good pair, 10’s or higher, and he re-raises you, it’s likely he just has big cards. Pair over pair situations heads up are extremely rare.
· Fact 3: Calling and Raising standard drop during heads up. With less players in the hand, you cannot wait for premium hands to play. They just will not come often enough. While K-10 offsuit is not playable in early position at a nine-handed table, it is actually much stronger heads up. It’s only behind pocket pairs, ace-x, or a bigger K (domination). Domination is when both players share a card, but one player has a bigger kicker (example: AK, vs A8s). Also, keep in mind that drawing hands are weaker heads up. Flushes and straights are more rare heads up, so you have to play a more solid style. Remember that being suited pre-flop only give you about a 2-3% edge post-flop over the same two cards unsuited. If they aren’t worth playing offsuit, they just are not worth playing for the simple fact that they are suited. Now, this is not to say that you should never draw to your hand heads up. Only draw if the implied odds make it favorable.
· Fact 4: You are getting pot odds to call pre-flop. In the small blind, you are getting 3 to 1 to call. You can call with virtually any two cards. It helps if your opponent is passive, but you can call. This does not mean that you should call a raise with rags, but occasionally even this can work out. Do you remember what Joe Hachem won the WSOP Main Event with? He took it down with 7-3 offsuit ; yeah, it does help when you flop the straight, but rags do occasionally take it down, and it is a good way to change gears. On the flip side of this coin, you can also start folding your small blinds often, and lull your opponent into thinking that you are waiting on good hands. Then when you wake up and bet, he will be more likely to give you credit for a hand.
· Fact 5: Position is vital in heads up play. At a full table, position can be a little dodgy. You may raise from middle or late position, but unless you are the button, there is no guarantee that someone in later position will not enter the pot. Heads up position is static. If you are the button, you have the disadvantage of acting first pre-flop, but it shifts to the advantage of having position post flop throughout the entire hand. As such, I advocate playing more aggressively when out of position. Try to end the hand quicker when you are at the disadvantage.
General Strategy

There are really two ways of playing heads up. We’ll call them “small ball” and “long ball”. Small ball refers to a grinding method, where you try to keep the pots smaller, and force solid play post flop. Long ball is the big bet, big raise play. Your chip stack, along with your natural style of play generally dictates which strategy you use. When you are heads up, with a large chip lead (at least 4 or 5 to 1), you need to use your chip lead to your advantage. Be more willing to play your coin flips. If you have a 4 to 1 lead, you only need to win one of two coin flips to end the match. If your chip stacks are relatively even, it’s more advantageous to play small ball. You want to grind him down through solid play to take a big chip lead. Wait for the key hands to really make big moves. This makes getting away from marginal hands post flop much easier, and simplifies your decision making process, while still looking for positive expected value situations to arise. Once you have the big lead, then switch it up. Put your opponent to the test with aggressive play. If you are the short stack (he has you more than 4 to 1)… you have to play long ball. You just don’t have the chip stack to grind it out. You have to find your hand and double up. Put him to the test with any good hand (top 15% or so).

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Play your game. If you entered a STT or an MTT, you got to heads up for a reason. It is obvious that you know what you are doing, and probably have your own style. If you are very aggressive, and suddenly change to being passive, it will not work. Mix in your style with knowledge and patience.

Study your opponent, and test him. Watch what he is showing if a hand goes to the end, and keep notes on it. It gives you ranges of hands that he plays, and you will notice tendencies, such as overvaluing paint, or playing draws too aggressively. These will come in handy in tough situations, where you can turn your hand into a winner.

I rarely slow play hands heads up, pre-flop (less than 20% of the time), as it cuts down on the possible value that you will get. Post flop, however is different. If he is willing to call a raise pre-flop, and you flop a monster, give your opponent a chance to commit himself before you push him out of the pot. If you can feign weakness long enough, he will often try to buy the pot, knowing he cannot win it in the showdown.

When in doubt, err on the side of aggression. Force your opponent to make the hard decisions. Heads up is not the time for the timid. Heads up is a battle of wills, and if you can frustrate your opponent, this can be a huge edge. It can force him to make the mistakes that can be a key to your success. The winner of a heads up match is generally who makes the least mistakes. Yes, you can get outdrawn, but positive value is always positive value. In the long run, you will come out a winner.

Practice your heads up play. Most online poker sites offer Heads Up Sit n Go’s for a pretty cheap buy in. Play several in a row, and keep at it. If you notice you are losing regularly, pull the hand histories and review to see where your leaks are. If you play live also, get a friend or two that play, and run a series of heads up matches for low buy in. Try to play several matches against players with different styles. Not everyone plays the same way heads up. You need to be familiar with each style of player you could end up facing. This practice will help out immensely when you are fortunate enough to make it to heads up for big money
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http://www.texasholdemforums.com/top...-strategy.html (A complete Heads-Up game of mine and strategy)
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found it hard to understand what you were saying at first in regard to what hands you play etc.

It sounds like you are way to predictable though, signposting all your big hands and where betting seems more likely to indicate weakness rather than strength.

I wont trust your read on him because if you say he is tight solid then it is totally in comparison with you so it might not fit the standard tight/solid mold.

Quite possibly what has happened is that he has developed exploitable reads on you. a run of the size you are talking about is small and it can all change quickly. I could go on runs against flatmates HU where i would barely win a game in 10 and then dominate and win most of the next games for a while. Its just like squash- if someone has a small edge then they can end up winning game after game until the losing player tweeks something in their game.

either use my strategy guide kaart posted or do the following
I would say take everything about what you play just now and throw it out

If you are an aggressive player then you dont need to slowplay much - you can get action from people calling you thinking your weak.

Try the following
1) remember position - if you are going to be first to play the flop then fold more hands. I would recommend mixing it up a bit but folding about 1 in 3- 1 in 4 from the small blind

2) from the big blind look at the hands that he is raising with - does he raise the same or different amounts. If he raises different amounts what do the different amounts mean? What does he do when you reraise him preflop? Make sure you have a good sense of this info and then try to exploit it.

3) when you raise in the small blind how often does he call, how often does he raise and what hands does he do this with?

Gather and process. You should be able to exploit exploitable patterns here. Find spots where you can make positive value plays regardless of what your holding is. Avoid too big exposure with big raises when you can get called and dominated

In terms of flop/ post flop play
Look for spots where you can exploit his play - dont think about what your old style was. Key rule of HU play is remember that if your opponent didnt start with a pair (probably he is the kind of guy from what you have said who raises each pair so thats a clue) so only 1 in three hands will his unpaired hand improve on the flop. Is he a guy who calls more than he should against stronger hands, a player who only plays hands, a guy who calls real light all the time or what is it about his play that is exploitable? There will probably be something. You just need to find it. Other things to look for are does he let you chase? does he fold to often to bets? etc etc.

If you try playing against other people this could help you too.

If you want to be aggressive then be consistantly aggressive be aggressive with all the hands that you play. If you are raising most of the time preflop (still fold some trash by the way) look to raise a good chunk of the flops and dont slow play much - If you are slowplaying hands and betting trash he will get your number and you will lose.

Dont focus on your game (beyond removing the leaks that he is exploiting) focus on his and find a way to destroy it.
  
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heads up requires you know your odds EXACTLY. i try to memorize the odds from a table i created.
  
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I find heads up to be very easy for me. When some one checks, I bet. When they bet, I raise. When they raise, I re-raise, and when they re-raise, I MOVE ALL IN!
  
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If you are predictable, they will catch on and play you accordingly. I mix up my game. I may not win all, but I would say I win more than I loose.

Keep in mind that all the advice in the world by the best does not compare to actually playing poker (no offense guys and dolls).

I would also suggest playing with other players and other stakes.

Keep coming, these guys will help you when you need some feed back on almost anything. Some guys or gals on here play very frequently and have seen almost everything possible either online or playing live games.

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If you are predictable, they will catch on and play you accordingly. I mix up my game. I may not win all, but I would say I win more than I loose.

Keep in mind that all the advice in the world by the best does not compare to actually playing poker (no offense guys and dolls).

I would also suggest playing with other players and other stakes.

Keep coming, these guys will help you when you need some feed back on almost anything. Some guys or gals on here play very frequently and have seen almost everything possible either online or playing live games.

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