Backdoor Flush & Straight Draws

Check this website Texas Holdem Poker Odds - After Flop Ballpark Guide

It is actually telling me that you can chase a runner runner. When I flop runner runners I usually just check/fold right there. But according to this I can call for a backdoor straight draw for 5:1 and call a backdoor flush draw for 4:1.

Is this true, is this what you guys do aswell?

Well the chart there is actually saying, from a 3 card open ended straight you can make an open-ended straight draw on the turn and your odds of that happening are 5 to 1.

With the 3 to a flush draw, it's saying that you have around a 4 to 1 chance
of getting a 4 card flush draw on the turn.

The odds of hitting a runner-runner flush are around 23 to 1.

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They make it look good but my way of looking at it is. Instead of numbers use words like I got a chance to win to (4) loseing, loseing, loseing,loseing chances.

Easier deside what to do.

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You can chase anything if you are getting the right odds. BUT, on the flop you are not talking one card, you are not talking one bet.

First, go back to the simple case of a 4 card draw on the flop. If you have one opponent who has just raised the pot, it looks like you are getting pot odds, nearly, with two cards to come, so you call right? Wrong. First you figure, if I miss on the turn, will I likely be facing another pot raise? If the answer to that is yes, then on the turn you will not be getting pot odds and will have to fold at that stage. That means you will have thrown away your flop call. But if you thought this through on the flop, or knew it anyway, you will fold on the flop because you will be comparing the one card odds to the pot odds instead of the two card odds due to anticipated fold on the turn if you miss.

Raising a draw when you get first bet is of course different because of the all fold possibillity.

Back to your question.

You have to think in the same way about runner runner draws. You are going to need several callers in front of you before you even get the odds on the flop, and you haven't yet started to work through who is likely to bet what on the turn and on the turn you still haven't made anything (you at least have that chance with a 4 card draw).

So, basically, no we don't chase those.

However, if you think there will be no reraises on the flop, and if you are seriously convinced that after all this frenzied betting that gave you pot odds on the flop, every one will really just check on the turn...... yeah right, welcome to the loser's lounge.

yeah I thought as much, wanted to put this one out there and see what response I got

but how about taking a back door flush draw as an out?

If you are of a mind to have a dodgy gamble, then it's probably better to be honest with yourself and admit that that is what you are doing than casting around for half baked excuses. You'll stand marginally more chance of getting the urge out of your system in the long run.