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Old 12-13-2007, 06:15 PM
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Does anybody know anything about Implied Stack Odds?
  
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is that different from Implied odds? If not, I do!


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Actually I think its the same. I also think I made a mistake, what I wanted to say was just Stack Odds. The thing is I don't think theres such a thing, but I think my brother has just figured out a good way to take people out that takes a combination of Reading Skills, Pot Odds, and what he likes to call Stack Odds. Yeah this is something made up at this time, we are still working on it to see if it works, so far it seems to be pretty effective.
  
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Does anybody know anything about Implied Stack Odds?

Don't put to much math there, there is no real difference. Just a term you hear stress on TV to make them sound better.

Implied means might be! Is it not what we use to calculate the odds of it hitting the same then? My eyes yes. So why worry, if you got one way to calculate your odds on your outs. There is no need to confuse yourself by renameing it.

Use the K.I.S.S. strategy:

K= keep

I= it

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Actually I think its the same. I also think I made a mistake, what I wanted to say was just Stack Odds. The thing is I don't think theres such a thing, but I think my brother has just figured out a good way to take people out that takes a combination of Reading Skills, Pot Odds, and what he likes to call Stack Odds. Yeah this is something made up at this time, we are still working on it to see if it works, so far it seems to be pretty effective.
I think I MIGHT know what you're talking about. Basically, this is something you do when deciding whether or not to call a short-stack all in:

What's the ratio of your stack to the short stack (i.e., 10k:1k or 10:1)
What's your estimated odds of winning the hand (i.e., 30%)

If both of you were to go all in with these holdings constantly, until someone busted, who would go first? So, in the example I made up above (completely on the spot)...

Lost the first hand (70% chance): down to 9k, villain has 2k
Lose the 2nd hand (70% chance): down to 7k, villain has 4k
Lose the 3rd hand (70% chance): down to 3k, villain has 8k
Lose the 4th hand (70% chance): you bust

So you would need to lose 4 hands in a row for this to be unprofitable by stack odds. Meanwhile, your hand odds say that will happen 24.01% of the time, or 4.165:1 against. You need odds of 10.0001:1 or worse in order to justify a fold.


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Don't put to much math there, there is no real difference. Just a term you hear stress on TV to make them sound better.

Implied means might be! Is it not what we use to calculate the odds of it hitting the same then? My eyes yes. So why worry, if you got one way to calculate your odds on your outs. There is no need to confuse yourself by renameing it.

Use the K.I.S.S. strategy:

K= keep

I= it

S= simply

S= straight forward
I think I know the KISS strategy as something different
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yes that is it, its something my brother came up with a long time ago but I said na that doesn't sound right. And we were only just starting out in poker, now 1 year later my brother has brought it up again and now we are working on it and its very effective.
  
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