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Playing Too Tight Theory, Advice, Strategies  | | 
11-04-2007, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by CalifNaughti  Ok I'm going to be changing my game in that position today. I have to say that I know it is the right thing to do but why am I so nervous? I still never got a response on whether to go all in when I am SS with KQo or AXo etc. | It all depends on the situation. I tend to push those hands when I'm the first one in the pot. If you see a raise in front of you while you're short stacked and you see a mediocre hand like that, fold it. If it folds to you in LP (late position) I am shoving with any two cards if I have 5x BB or less. You're not going to do much in a tournament waiting for a premium hand when you're short stacked. | | |
11-30-2007, 07:20 AM
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I read all your post, I think that our poker strategy depends by ur stack level and the blinds level, in my last live tournament , my stack was in average but after i didn't see any good card, and when also I saw good card, the board didn't help me. In my opinion we could have a good strategy, but we need also lucky to win tournament | | |
11-30-2007, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by FinK22 The question can't be easily answered as much depends on your stack compared to the blinds, your position at the table and your opponents... but I have told you for a long time now that you have to stop blinding yourself down so far just trying to make the money (or a FT).
I recall a tourny a long time ago you were bound and determined to make the final table and you went from 36,000 chips down to 1500 without seeing a single flop (blinds were probably 1000/2000 and 1500/3000 during this time). It has always been my opinion that allowing yourself to blind down to nothing is the worst thing you can do to yourself in a poker tournament.
Like this one that I posted about a couple months ago... I still can't comprehend playing this way when there are less than 100 left, you are currently getting back like $100 (maybe $130 at the next level) but 1st place pays $18,000. If you want the big win, you have to give yourself a chance to win. | True,but alot of times the way you get there is playing tight and waiting.Once you hit the money most players say screw it and play loose going for the gold.The tight players can generally pick them off or watch someone else pick them off for them.
Its a crapshoot basically,but I say play your game the way you feel comfortable.
One thing I notice is the tighter you have played throught the tournament the more likely you are to suck out later.I have no stats or anything just something I noticed.
Fink.
If you want the big win, you have to give yourself a chance to win
Couldnt playing tight also be giving you a chance to win big?
I know the way you explained it gives you a chance to win big,but will folding a hand you dont like accomplish the same thing?
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Last edited by xtra; 11-30-2007 at 07:55 AM.
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11-30-2007, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by xtra Fink.
If you want the big win, you have to give yourself a chance to win
Couldnt playing tight also be giving you a chance to win big?
I know the way you explained it gives you a chance to win big,but will folding a hand you dont like accomplish the same thing? | Whaaaaaaaaa? In the example I gave, with 100 players left wild freak had 160,000 chips at 20,000/40,000 and folded his way down to 7000 chips. It's pointless, throwing away a shot at $18,000. | | |
11-30-2007, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by FinK22 Whaaaaaaaaa? In the example I gave, with 100 players left wild freak had 160,000 chips at 20,000/40,000 and folded his way down to 7000 chips. It's pointless, throwing away a shot at $18,000. | I would have gone before that I think ,but at what point do you decide its time to play any two cards?
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Last edited by xtra; 11-30-2007 at 08:43 AM.
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11-30-2007, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by xtra I would have gone before that I think ,but at what point do you decide its time to play any two cards? | At worst right here... Quote: |
Originally Posted by FinK22 You paid your 40,000 blind and 4000 ante leaving you with 31,000 chips and folded to a single player leaving you with under one BB...??? | At the VERY WORST, HERE!!! Quote: |
Originally Posted by FinK22 then you paid your 20,000 SB and 4000 ante leaving you with 7000 chips and FOLDED TO A SINGLE RAISER AGAIN??? | xtra, please tell me you don't fold your way down to less than 20% of a single big blind...  | | |
11-30-2007, 06:46 PM
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I have to agree with Fink on this one....folding yourself that low is very bad poker IMHO...(not having a dig at anyone btw)...he had a shot at 18 K and wasted it completly to move up a few spots on the pay ladder...... | | |
11-30-2007, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by FinK22 At worst right here...
At the VERY WORST, HERE!!!
xtra, please tell me you don't fold your way down to less than 20% of a single big blind... | Im not sure if I have gone that far ,but Im sure I have at the very least come close in a few circumstances.
I dont care how many chips I have ,I play whichever way I think gives me the chance to get farthest in the game.In that hand I probably call,but at the same time I have no idea what his cards look like or if he is trying to make the next level because he has a low bankroll.
Not for above situation
Either way you play is a gamble.Youre on the BB ,you have 3x the BB left you you can go all in and hope or you can fold and hope,either way youre doing what you can to extend your game and give yourself a better chance at winning.
To me they are the same thing,but more play the way you describe,thats why I go the opposite.I have no problem losing on a good hand,but losing on a 25,46 ,39 and Ill be kicking myself in the ass .
What gives you a better chance of winning,bad cards and a big pot or good cards and a smaller pot?
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11-30-2007, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by xtra What gives you a better chance of winning,bad cards and a big pot or good cards and a smaller pot? | When do you expect this good hand to come? The fold in the SB left him with less than 2 ANTES. In the next hand if you were dealt more bad cards, would you fold leaving yourself with less than the price of an ante because you would rather blind out than play an ugly hand? Forget the "moving up because of bankroll" issues... the buyin was $10 and you are already sitting at $180 with a ladder that goes up in $30 incriments. I'll take a table full of people willing to give up any shot at $18,000 in hopes of collecting another $30 any day. There comes a point where you just can't wait for good cards if you want to have a shot at winning... I just can't see any excuse for folding 20 or 30 hands in a row only to find yourself in a position where winning a hand with the good cards you finally got dealt will still find your stack being less than a single big blind. | | |
11-30-2007, 10:51 PM
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Keep it guys..I'm learning here and trying very hard to change my game up a little. I dont want to play safe..I want to play smart..except on the THFSOP game I host, then Im going to be playing so tight that everytime I move my mouse it will squeak!
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