Whats your move?

Situation:$3.30 rebuy ...first hand after break ... youre in for $ 24.30


200/400 blinds 9 player table.......1800 left in tourney

Players 1 thru 3 fold
Player 4:44.000 raises 3000
Player5: 9800 chips moves all in
player 6:17000 ....raises all in
Player7: (you) KK and 26000 chips
Player 8:26000
Player: 9(tourney leader 134,0000 BB( bully)

Whats your move?

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Move them into the middle, initial raiser was probably just messin around with the preflop raise, player 6 maybe a smaller pair to isolate? and hope bully doesnt have AA .... and it was a rebuy, people my still be in donk mode.

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The only thing worst than getting a bad beat is getting outplayed...

I agree, a push is the move to make here. Initial raiser could have a decent suited connector like KQs or gapped connecter like AJs or KJs. AT, suited or not, is also a possibility, along with AK. Either way, I don't think he makes such a big raise with something like AA or KK (although this could be false, I havn't observed any play). Player 5 has a hand that is most likely ahead, but doesn't want to actually commit 1/3 of his chips preflop and be bluffed out on the flop. So, I'll put player 5 on a decent range of hands, from 88-JJ or AK/AQ. Player 6...player 6 is a tricky one. He/she obviously has SOMETHING, the question is: is it AA something, or QQ something? Either way, I don't think you can lay down your kings. You have them all covered, it's right after the rebuy period, and as teedough mentioned it's quite possible they're still in crazy mode. I reraise all in (to make sure chip leader doesn't get any smart ideas) and hope I don't get sucked out on. Of course, if I had a read on the players, things might be a little different.

Simply as a side note, I don't think you should consider how much you are in for. You are still far away from the money, never mind making your money back. If we are nearing the bubble, then it becomes a much more interesting hand, but we're not quite there yet.

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Fault always lies in the same place, my fine babies: with him weak enough to lay blame.

stick em in. The likelihood of one of them having AA is very slim, and they're probably all canceling each other's aces with AK, AQ etc, so you're probably a massive favourite. If you want to build a stack, nows the time.

So X are you just gonna leave us hanging on what the hell happened or what ? Last nite I lost some sleep tossing and turning wondering who had what.

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The only thing worst than getting a bad beat is getting outplayed...

Classic strategy: First position moves with a mid holding, second position pushes him with a better than mid holding, like AJ, AT or any mid pair, you with KK, absolutely have to take advantage of this. Its a great opportunity to become a chip leader early after the break. Chances are these guys havent settled down after rebuys, so your risks , in my mind here, are minimal. Neither has AA.

You could play it safe, but the possibilites of another chance with a premium holding coming your way to triple up are very slim. Take this risk NOW, do or die. win or lose

This is very foldable here. You have a great chip stack and calling or raising here is putting a good part of that in jepardy. Given that this is a 3$ rebuy (play for the first 2 hours is terrible) there is a good chance that players are still not tightening up after the rebuys are over. You could easily be up against aq, aj, 88, 22, 67s etc as well as AA so you are very probably priced in. Even if noone has AA though you still have a good chance of actually losing the hand and even though you are quite probably getting good pot odds this is a hand that is very foldable.

Something would depend on the depth of reads I had on my fellow players if i thought there was a good chance that some of those involved in the hand could have easily not had AA it might have swayed me to call.

This is one of those hands though that isnt worth worrying about too much as the EV for folding and for reraising all in will be about the same. I would want to outplay these guys in future hands rather than putting things in preflop but if you feel your are up against loads of preflop aggression and do not want to sit quiet for a few hands till it calms down then calling is not too bad an idea.

The only thing i would add is that flat calling might get the tourney leader to reraise you - this would be the perfect result as then you will be getting a good side pot with your KK against someone who almost certainly doesnt have AA (too many aces already are likely to be accounted for) At the same time if he just calls then whatever the flop you might have a tough decision on your hands BUT if he does just call you might get extra action from him with an inferior hand.

So Fold is fine
call is high risk but pr fine and
reraise is fine

You have to reraise.

2500 people, 8000 rebuys and 1200 addons. This is a crazy tourny. Win or lose Id call that every time. You win and you have (at least) double the average stack at the bubble (2 hours from now... will be 25,000ish) and possibly 3-5 times depending on the rest of the table. If you lose with no one else in the pot you still have 9000 chips and if the bully ends up calling you'll still have 18,000 as long as you can beat his hand (4 handed KK isnt a favorite against the table but should still be a dominating favorite to still have at least 18,000 chips if the bully calls you). So you start the hand with 26,000 and you have KK against whatever the bully holds to still have 18,000 with a 55,000 side pot against the rest of the table (I assume you expect the bully to call 20% of his chips to knock out 3 people and build or lose without it meaning too much considering).

I dont see any way I'd fold here.

I'd call to see a flop but will also call the all-in if player 4 goes that route. If he calls also then move all-in after the flop if no Ace on board.

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