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did i play this wrong or is this guy a f***in moron

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Old 08-28-2006, 11:43 PM
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Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players: 4
Seat 1: y2jason ( $35.50 ) - in game
Seat 2: rw11687 ( $24.95 ) - in game
Seat 3: TiltingDonk ( $16.77 ) - in game
Seat 6: Fritskorbach ( $13.55 ) - in game

TiltingDonk posts SB $0.25.
Fritskorbach posts BB $0.50.
**** dealing down cards ****
Dealt to rw11687 [ 9h, 9c ]
y2jason calls $0.50.
rw11687 raises $2.
TiltingDonk folds.
Fritskorbach calls $1.50.
y2jason folds.
**** dealing flop **** [ 4s, 9d, 6h ]
Fritskorbach checks.
rw11687 checks.
**** dealing turn **** [ 2d ]
Fritskorbach checks.
rw11687 bets $2.
Fritskorbach calls $2.
**** dealing river **** [ 3s ]
Fritskorbach bets $1.50.
rw11687 raises $4.
Fritskorbach raises $5.
rw11687 calls $2.50.
Fritskorbach shows a straight, six high [ 5s, ac ].
rw11687 mucks [ 9h, 9c ].
Fritskorbach wins $20.70 from main pot with a straight, six high [ 6h, 5s, 4s, 3s, 2d ].





Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players: 5
Seat 1: y2jason ( $38.60 ) - in game
Seat 2: rw11687 ( $14.25 ) - in game
Seat 4: shortty ( $49.80 ) - in game
Seat 5: Hockeychik24 ( $7.62 ) - in game
Seat 6: Fritskorbach ( $6.26 ) - in game

y2jason posts SB $0.25.
rw11687 posts BB $0.50.
**** dealing down cards ****
Dealt to rw11687 [ ah, ad ]
shortty calls $0.50.
Hockeychik24 folds.
Fritskorbach calls $0.50.
y2jason calls $0.25.
rw11687 raises $1.50.
shortty folds.
Fritskorbach calls $1.50.
y2jason folds.
**** dealing flop **** [ 8c, 6c, 4d ]
rw11687 bets $1.50.
Fritskorbach calls $1.50.
**** dealing turn **** [ 4h ]
rw11687 bets $3.
Fritskorbach calls $2.76.
**** dealing river **** [ tc ]
rw11687 shows two pairs, aces and fours [ ah, ad ].
Fritskorbach shows a flush, jack high [ jc, 4c ].
Fritskorbach wins $12.87 from main pot with a flush, jack high [ jc, tc, 8c, 6c, 4c ].
  
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Old 08-29-2006, 12:04 AM
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All my opinion RW bud.......bit of a hornets nest for me replying to these posts....

First hand maybe a bet on the flop....I used to limp my set if I hit on the flop....not so much nowadays (as I'm sick of being outdrawn).....as for the rest you cannot legislate for players who call bets for inside cards....BUT I most defiantly would not of raised on the river after the first time he had bet out and there is now a possible on the board.....I feel it is defo one of them hands that you can but only call on the river if your opponent now bets out.

Second one....maybe nothing at all you could do here...maybe 4x the BB opposed to 3xBB......would defo of put at least a pot bet in on the flop, don't feel a continuation bet holds up well with pkt aces....for me the object is to get them off my pot asap.....but short stack man....he has hit his cards I feel he was with ya' all the way anyway bud.

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Hmm...well, on both hands, you have to realize that at low limits (even though at P4E 25/50c is the highest regular game hehe), people will often ignore how big a bet is in relation to the pot/blind sizes. I regularly make raises on P4E with KK, QQ, etc., and when showdown time comes around, I'll see one of the callers had a weak ace - so its either them thinking Ax = AK, or $2 isn't a lot to them. The 2nd hand, I'm gonna give the guy the benefit of the doubt and say he was getting desperate (even though he probably would've played that J4 anyway...although he may have folded to an all in if he held more chips - you never know). Generally though, at P4E, I play my premium hands VERY aggressively against everyone, until someone shows they're willing to fold a flush draw against an all in. Until then, I'll continue raising rediculous amounts, and in the long run, I make money.
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On the first hand, you were putting off an image that you had face cards and missed the flop. He may have thought his ace was good as I don't see a gutshot as a smart call there on the turn. I would have credited you for an ace, so i wouldnt have called, but maybe that gutshot gave him a reason in his mind to do so with ace rag. Personally I like to bet my sets to cash in on the people on draws. But stategy with sets can really change from situation to situation.



On the second hand, I don't understand his preflop call, other than you may have been playing tight and he thought he could bluff you 1 on 1 if you missed the flop. The chasing after the flop wasn't too amazing for those limits.
  
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i dont like slowplaying my sets either IF there is a draw. but this guy was pretty bad and there are no draws on the flop. so i wanted him to stay in. but i agree that i should not have raised the river. but i didnt put him on a 5. i couldnt imgine him playing anything with a 5 unless it was 55. but they way he played, he would have raised with them. thanks for the comments though. honesty can only make me better. as for the second hand. dont see why he called preflop, i can see the flop, but i dont think i could have gotten away from that hand. he had 3 dollars left and there was something like 10 already in the pot. once again, when i bet the turn, didnt think he would play an ace. oh well, ended up doubling my buy in and more, all while i was making 50 dollars on the .50/1 tables.
  
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I would have put out a callable bet on the flop, and a large one on the turn and probably would have folded after the river card came up and he raised. I definitely would not have re-raised his river bet with that board.
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You fold too easy PokerRef, haha. If rw did raise on the river he can call a reraise. He's getting close to 3:1 or 4:1 on his call on the off chance that his opponent doesn't have a 5, as that is basically all that beats him.

The second hand I think you got unlucky. Your opponent made a bad call and hit a huge flop for his hand (pair and flush draw). He wasn't going anywhere on that flop, and the turn certainly cemented his position. Tough luck on the AA and the 99. Other than the raise on the river with 99 I think you played them as bet you could know how. Hard to put opponents on Jc4c and 55 with the information you were getting.
  
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You fold too easy PokerRef, haha. If rw did raise on the river he can call a reraise. He's getting close to 3:1 or 4:1 on his call on the off chance that his opponent doesn't have a 5, as that is basically all that beats him.
Dude, doesn't matter how good the money is your getting, if your beat, your beat, simply put.
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Statistics, along with pot odds are just helpers in making a decision in poker.

Statitics are based on a true random set, and as we know, human decision has strong bias therefore statistics will always be skewed.

I wouldnt depend on them as the cards will more likely favor your opponent in this situation than a random set.
  
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