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Old 10-29-2007, 11:47 PM
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* currently the team gets the points of the highest finishing team member
* K thinks that the lowest team members points should be used
* Rat thinks that an average should be taken

As I said before, we have to remember that there is a high chance of those doing well in the individual league will do well in the team league as well. So I think we need to go with K's or Rat's suggestion
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:53 PM
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I actually thought up the average idea first..and then tried it out...

As it is with the current point system, you could have finishes of 1st and last, and still end up with the most points for that day..
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i like the average idea but what would happen if a team member no shows 0 points i guess
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i like the average idea but what would happen if a team member no shows 0 points i guess
Yep, exactly.

The problem with the average idea is the fact that the points system puts so much emphasis on first place. Let's say you have a 20 person game, one team has players finishing 1st and last, another 2nd and 3rd (this is highly unlikely, I know - this is the extreme case). If that were to happen, the team of 2nd and 3rd would only finish ahead by 1.3 points. Make that 1st and last vs. 2nd and 4th, and now you're down by .3 points. So, while it's POSSIBLE that league winner won't get the team win, it's highly likely.

The advantage to making the team aspect rely on the "weakest link" is it would encourage better play early on. No longer can players use the mentality of "hey if I go out, I got <insert individual leader> on my team, he/she can help me out" - because he/she won't. It would also encourage players to make all the games, as missing one game gets your team 0 points (or, we could make it 5 points so it's not too extreme...still, you get the picture).
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The problem with the average idea is the fact that the points system puts so much emphasis on first place. Let's say you have a 20 person game, one team has players finishing 1st and last, another 2nd and 3rd (this is highly unlikely, I know - this is the extreme case). If that were to happen, the team of 2nd and 3rd would only finish ahead by 1.3 points.
If this is true then your point structure makes no sense to begin with... is 1st place worth nearly as many points as 2nd and 3rd combined???
  
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Place...Points
1 .......44.72135955
2........31.6227766
3........25.81988897

2nd + 3rd is 57.44266558, 1st + 20th (last) is 54.72 points (<3 points difference) by the current system.
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Yep, exactly.

The problem with the average idea is the fact that the points system puts so much emphasis on first place. Let's say you have a 20 person game, one team has players finishing 1st and last, another 2nd and 3rd (this is highly unlikely, I know - this is the extreme case). If that were to happen, the team of 2nd and 3rd would only finish ahead by 1.3 points. Make that 1st and last vs. 2nd and 4th, and now you're down by .3 points. So, while it's POSSIBLE that league winner won't get the team win, it's highly likely.

The advantage to making the team aspect rely on the "weakest link" is it would encourage better play early on. No longer can players use the mentality of "hey if I go out, I got <insert individual leader> on my team, he/she can help me out" - because he/she won't. It would also encourage players to make all the games, as missing one game gets your team 0 points (or, we could make it 5 points so it's not too extreme...still, you get the picture).
but if you put it on lowest member, then a no show would earn 0 for the team
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Place...Points
1 .......44.72135955
2........31.6227766
3........25.81988897

2nd + 3rd is 57.44266558, 1st + 20th (last) is 54.72 points (<3 points difference) by the current system.
Think your points system needs revamped... 3rd place only gets 3x as many points as 20th?
  
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Think your points system needs revamped... 3rd place only gets 3x as many points as 20th?
last place has always been worth 10 points...thats why some used to pay the $5 and sit out to collect 10 points to secure their spots
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[quote=k06mars;155027]I actually thought up the average idea first..and then tried it out...

its all yours then big boy, im not looking to get any credit just a solution
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