WSOP 05' Will Any Big Names Win This Time?

With more and more people getting into poker and with more and more people just paying the $10,000 because they got the money. Will we ever see the big names take over anymore? I mean with more and more people playing and some of the them getting lucky, I'm not sure if any big name players will win it this year. Sure you got to be pretty good to take home the money...but it's not that hard to get some lucky hands and bring it home...

eh....I'm gonna have to disagree with you here man. Firstly, I don't know if a pro will win, but there are a lot more amatuers than pros that play in it. Also, I wouldn't same it's easy to get a "few" lucky hands and "bring it home." You might get past the first day with that, but not win it. That takes honest skill; skill that the pros have. Also, all these pros basically have a bounty on their head. Everyone wants to play against the pros b/c it's a thrill, and then even if they lose they can say, "I knocked Gus Hanson, or Doyle Brunson, etc." These guys are being gunned at. But what Dan Negreuneu (I have no idea how to spell that). He won the tourney leader board award over all the tourneys. That's a pretty obvious distinction that the pros have an up on the rest of the field. That's why they're the pros. ~ Biggs

the thing is amature will risk it all on a draw that how alot of pro get knocked out these day by the amature going in on a draw and hitting it

I agree that the sheer number of amatuers makes it harder for the pros. But if you look at the number of amatuers compared to the number of pros at the beginning of a tournament and then again at the end (say the final table) the ratio is far less. This shows that the pros still know how to stick around. I think they still have a shot at this thing. Dan Harrington made the final table 2 years in a row. Thats skill...not luck.

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I agree with ya proffessa...but I also feel that the world series is getting a little more like internet poker and the sheer number of uncalled for risk takers makes it tough. When you have a lot of players willing to risk it all for a miracle draw...most will lose, but some will get lucky and those that get lucky might not win the tournament, but they may have, just knocked out a pro.

If you notice a good player does not have luck...luck is not needed, because they are playing good solid hands and solid play...luck is needed when you need to turn a average hand into the nuts. Bad luck, is what a good player can't have...that is when an opponent turns their junk hand into a "bad beat".

We only see the final tabels at the series, unless your at the game, we don't see all the crap that goes on in the early days.

Winning at hold'em tournaments is becoming more like "winning the Lotto"

I think what allows the pros to get to far into the tourney, is merely their opponents not getting lucky. They're going to get in far better positions and out play the amatuers. Then they just need their better hands to hold up. If their opponents don't get lucky, then they'll do well. It's all about dodging bulletts. ~ Biggs

I think that amatuers will eventually try, if not already try, to take over professional poker. More and more amatuers are going to play in the WSOP every year and some of them may become the next Phil Ivey or Howard Ledderer. Not as many pros will make to the final table every year. Eventually, it might be that a pro may not win in the next ten years or so.

Marcel Luscke (spelled wrong) made it in 10th last year, Harrington was 4th I believe. Pros do make it to the final table, even in big events. The year before, Harrington made it too. I think there will always be a few pros, but you will never have a final table with like 5-6 pros.

I feel that a pro has a chance at winning the big event if he is in the right chip position going into the final table. Dan Harrington or Marcel Luske each would have had a great chance at winning if they had more chips entering the final table.