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PLAYERS TYING UP THE .1/.2 CENT ROOMS

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Old 02-14-2005, 09:50 PM
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Default PLAYERS TYING UP THE .1/.2 CENT ROOMS

I see this weekly in fact it's going on right now. One player will get in the one on one tables and sit out on all of them. Why doesn't pokerstars ban these people. Does anybody know?
  
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can you explain further
is this happening in a heads up tournament?
whats the benefit of this

think im misreading this
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In poker stars they have some penny tables .01/.02 heads up. PS has like 5 tables set up there where people play just play 1on1. I have noticed that before where some people are just sitting out on the 1on1 tables. And there can be people joinning to find that the other guy isnt even returning. That completely plugs up that 1 table for whatever amount of time till PS closes or till that guy leaves or comes back. Seeing that there isnt any game play you dont get booted for missing any blinds cause the game is stopped.
  
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I see this weekly in fact it's going on right now. One player will get in the one on one tables and sit out on all of them. Why doesn't pokerstars ban these people. Does anybody know?
Have you made this complaint to the administrators at PokerStars? What was their response?
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i think that it is stupid how players do that, esp. on the 1on1 tables, it is getting very annoying waiting in line then it comes to be my turn and they guy is sitting out, and dose not come back for hours....they need to do something about that!
  
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I barley even see a purpose in those tables. You could argue that it's to practice heads up, but when stand to lose so little they will call much more loosely so it isnt even good for that.

Surely everyone has a big enough bank roll to play at something higher than .1/.2???
  
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well what i dont understand is your saying that the cards arent delt and its put on hold if u will?thats not right if they sit out they should have to pay the blinds and in turn they'll lose
  
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Default Directely from pokerstars Why "Sitting Out" isn't against the rules

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I see this weekly in fact it's going on right now. One player will get in the one on one tables and sit out on all of them. Why doesn't pokerstars ban these people. Does anybody know?
http://www.pokerstars.com/tournaments/sittingout.html

Why "Sitting Out" isn't against the rules

A player in a "ring" game (a non-tournament game) can click "leave table", and take his chips out of the game at any time. They can do this because each hand is its own separate event. If a player sits out too long in a ring game, we do remove them in order to free up the seat for another player.

A tournament is not like a ring game, however. For their "buy-in", they receive their starting stack of chips, which are not from their chip totals but are instead just scorekeepers for the tournament. Once the event begins, it must proceed until one person has won all the chips.

For the same reason that players cannot just choose to pick up their own chips and leave, we cannot arbitrarily remove the player and their chips from the event once it has begun. Every chip in a starting stack of a tournament must be at the final table in order for a game to be fair to every player.

It's best to think of a player who is sitting out as simply folding every hand. This is a completely legal tactic, as it is up to any individual player to decide his own best strategy. There is no rule, for obvious reasons, against folding every hand. Therefore, what these players are doing is not against any rule, and no action will be taken against them.

For the same reasons, we cannot make changes to the system to discourage this activity. Once a player has paid their entry, they are entitled to play (or not play) every hand that their chips will buy them.

A player who is sitting out actually puts his opponents at a significant advantage. The player who is sitting out is still forced to pay his blinds and antes, and is never able to build his stack. On occasion, a player might blind off into 3rd place, or maybe even 2nd, but players who employ this strategy are usually far worse off than those who play their best game.

If players are actually winning chips by sitting out the entire time, this is a sign that the play in these events is far too loose and you should adjust your play accordingly. You will find that this is often the case with all play money chip games. I'm sure you've noticed, for example, that players will go all-in holding virtually nothing when it is play money.

We hope this clearly explains why this is neither against the rules nor something we can possibly police. If you were to play in our $5.50 cash sit and go events (available only on PokerStars.com, not on Pokerstars.net), we believe you would find that very few players are sitting out, and that the play is much more realistic with real cash on the line.

In addition, we have implemented a limit of 2 concurrent play money sit and go events per player. Players can no longer sign up for an unlimited number of events in an effort to accumulate chips without playing.


Good luck in our games, and thanks for playing here on PokerStars.
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well all of that is obvious. but there should be a block on people sitting out in heds up rooms that arent tournament based.
  
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I agree they need to fix this, it is kind of retarded to be clogging up tables.
  
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