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Old 02-19-2005, 07:47 PM
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I am not a computer programmer but the way I understand it, this software is as close to random as possible. Some sites feel more rigged than others for sure, but of course I can't back that up with verifiable fact.

however you will get just as many bad beats in live games, trust me. You just play a lot more online hands in a given session than you would at a casino, that's why you see fewer bad beats. As well people may play tighter at a casino as opposed to online.
  
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First of all, if it's real, it's not paranoia. That's childish. A great many conversations I hold are with people who have 20 years plus in the game. It's not paranoia. Children like to stop arguing. They say things like this.

There are enough posts to warrant a stong caveate (warning). If your money comes from rake, then maximize it. Give the money and take it away. I would count on players anger, frustration and the stupidity to back it up with money. As a training ground, PS does provide the most frustrating site. However, they give far more than a bad day at the casino you have to drive to.

I pushed them. I sent chat messages regarding the number of pairs being numerous, showing the exposed cards, e.g., H1=AA, H2=JJ, H3=22, H4=22, H5=99, and so on, with an occasionarl Hn=Nrml/Str/Flsh hand. I let players know they could charge one of the money changers services up to $200 bucks and send a stop payment to their bank, good for six months, and make PS pay for it. No USA laws, no problem. This starts to irritate PS. Then, they play their dirty cards. You won't see a hand. They'll prompt you with an "update" of the software. Why would you need one in 1-2 days of use? Why would they update it at all? You can see the changes when you log in. Thin client and Java servers don't need to push updates on your system unless they want to drop a trojan on your box. Get some spyware and see what they put in, along with the hidden directory I've mentioned in another thread.

Anyway, play on the other sites. Drop PS. They don't warrant money from general players. Who are you going to complain to if they are eventually found out to be fooling around with the players and money?

Sorry, back to the subject at hand. They move the money. The showdowns are made for that. The more the merrier. You won't find consistency on their site. It does not exist and the dealing engine is made for that, perhaps with a litlte help from friends too. You should win big on one table and lose on the other. The best part of this, is you usually get to be chipped down, slowly. Who cares? The computer is not griping. That's the best way. Take a little and then a little more. Finally, you're calling in your credit card number. Hmmm, does anyone, generally speaking, have a different story?

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onestly, I think that every poker site is a little rigged. But I don't think that Pokerstars is as rigged as some of the other poker websites, if it is rigged at all.
  
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I am not a computer programmer but the way I understand it, this software is as close to random as possible. Some sites feel more rigged than others for sure, but of course I can't back that up with verifiable fact.

however you will get just as many bad beats in live games, trust me. You just play a lot more online hands in a given session than you would at a casino, that's why you see fewer bad beats. As well people may play tighter at a casino as opposed to online.

Spread a desk of 52 cards out and hand out 20 of them. From the remaining cards pull three and turn them over. Then, turn 1 and then plop the river card. Count the number of times you see a pair on board, then 4 cards str's and flushes. You are more random than that computer. Of course you are not interested in maximizing the rake. And if you were to be earning revenue from a computer, and you were not born in the USA, and you don't give a rats' behind about fairness, but moreso money, then you might program an EJB in Java that looks like it randomly stacks the cards together. You would most certainly fool anyone from Price-Waterhouse-Coopers, Anderson (Accenture) or Touche-Ross, who you might say audited your engine. They don't even play poker! Unless you count office politics.

Fill a 20 x 20 room with hamburger on the floor 1 inch thick and half-dollars covering it, 1 foot deep. That's a lot of coins. Mark one with a blue-dot. Leave and have a pack of wild dogs come in and dig through the coins to get to the hamburger. They'll dig through the coins randomly dispersing them. They'll pile the room with poop. You come back in the next day, with a gas mask and gloves. Now, you get 3 tries to pick out the half-dollar you marked. You have a greater chance of picking out that half-dollar than you have to win playing at PokerStars.

Ok, let 'em fly, I can hear the remarks now! Yuck, yuck, yuck! You know, now that I read my own post, it is kind of funny, in morbid but truthful kind of way.
I really hope there is a site to play at that will garner everyone's respect. That alone, would be something and these posts will show it.

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