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04-16-2006, 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by SonnyChiba I try not to do this to often but I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one Gator dude. There are such things as bad beats, you have your quad aces beat by a str8 flush regardless of what level of play your at "Thats a bad beat"....!!!
"Bad players" Blame the cards (like they care  ), other players or anything else for that matter other than themselves, of course....!!!! lol  | I have to agree with you 100 percent something to say at the time for somebody going on a rampage. But I have seen some bad beats ..... played wrong and classified as a bad beat. I'm no expert, working on my game. Thanks for disagree, no offense taken. This is how we learn.  | |
04-16-2006, 08:39 AM
| | | | This is important to remember ,so listen closely.Pokerstars is only a scam when I lose.If I win on a bad beat or a nasty fish it was superb skill.Anyone else losing,that is ok.If I beat your AA with my 23 off,it was because I had a gut feeling,if I lost I had gas(which still is a bad beat,because I should win every hand of course). 
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04-16-2006, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by xtra This is important to remember ,so listen closely.Pokerstars is only a scam when I lose.If I win on a bad beat or a nasty fish it was superb skill.Anyone else losing,that is ok.If I beat your AA with my 23 off,it was because I had a gut feeling,if I lost I had gas(which still is a bad beat,because I should win every hand of course).  | And that just about sums it all up nicely....So honest and yet so very, very funny...!!!!  | |
04-17-2006, 01:08 AM
| | | | Wow, lots of biased opinions around here. I'd like to ask that before people post, the be sure they're gonna post a respectable response.
My point in all this is that for the last fifteen or so tournaments, when I was behind with 8 8 against k k for example, I stayed behind. I rarely caught a set. However, when I was ahead, I almost surely lost. I can post all my hand histories to prove this. I don't know what the hell is going on, but when I have a 4 to 1 edge, it should by all probability hold up 4 times to 1, but that has clearly not been the case. I have played at all sites and it appears that pokerstars is clearly rigged against me. Do I know why? No. Can I come up with a logical reason why? No. I can only state that which I know to be true.
As I said before, I downloaded pokerstat, but unfortunately I can't get it to work. | |
04-17-2006, 01:22 AM
| | | | ok let me explain in english pokerstars is not rigged against you i go through the exact same runs but then i go on a tearing up run these things happen.
you get more badbeats on stars and party as they are the biggest sites with the most amount of new or inexperianced players who see gus hansen play 7 4 off and take down a big pot and think thats how you play poker | |
04-17-2006, 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by billyboy62 ok let me explain in english pokerstars is not rigged against you i go through the exact same runs but then i go on a tearing up run these things happen. | That's english? | |
04-17-2006, 01:47 AM
| | | | oh great a smart assed kid should have known | |
04-17-2006, 01:56 AM
| | | | I'm fairly certain PS has created a special program that follows every single player around and changes the cards as you play. Obviously investing several million dollars creating such a program to take our $10 buy ins is a sound investment. Of course its rigged. | |
04-17-2006, 02:21 AM
| | | | Everyone knows that the programmers at PokerStars hate you and they set the site up to recognize your login and make you lose. I've talked to them and they are very happy with how well it is working.
Let's look at the multiple hand histories that you posted and see how this pans out.
Hand 1 - You had KK against QQ, both all in preflop and the queens hit a set on the flop. Now that's never happened to anyone else on this site I'm pretty sure, but it does happen.
Hand 2 - You had 48o and folded. Why did you post this hand? Is it because PokerStars deals you rags? I can understand that, since they only deal me premium hands.
Hand 3 - You had 55 and called a 4 times the big blind raise with them. Now the rule I use with small pairs is no set, no bet. But this is apparently not your strategy. Two over cards came on the flop and your opponent bet 3600 into a 2925 pot and you call. He checks the turn and you move all in and he folds. Oh, you won this hand, guess the programmers screwed up.
Hand 4 - You have 89s in the big blind and you check. You hit second pair on the flop and 1600 into an 825 pot and get a caller. The turn brought another 9 giving you trips and you bet 1600 again and got reraised and moved all in. Your opponent had K9 and won the hand. He probably shouldn't have reraised unless he didn't have the 9 as well and it's hard to believe your 8 kicker didn't hold up, but these things happen.
Hand 5 - You had K5s and you folded. Another hand you didn't play? Another hand to point out how PokerStars is rigged because you didn't get a premium hand each time?
Hand 6 - You had K8o and you folded. A pattern developing here? Still don't know what the purpose of these hands are, but they are very helpful to your case of proving how PokerStars is rigged.
Hand 7 - You had K2s and you folded. It's hard to believe that not everyone plays every hand in a tournament, but I guess to each his own.
Hand 8 - You had T4s and you folded. Another clear case of PokerStars being rigged. Can you believe no one has noticed this before???
Hand 9 - You had 78s and moved all in preflop. This is indeed a monster and you won the hand because everyone folded. Obviously the site is rigged because no one had 9 high to be able to call your raise.
Hand 10 - You had 64o and folded. Holy cow, it really is rigged!!! You have me almost convinced now!
Hand 11 - You had J7o and folded. I can't believe I've played here for a year and haven't seen this before!
Hand 12 - You had 64s and folded. They are suited, how could you toss such an awesome starting hand???
Hand 13 - You had T6s in the big blind and checked. The flop came 5KT rainbow. Everyone checked. The flop brought another king and you faced a bet of 400 into a 1425 pot. You called. The river brought a queen. You faced a bet of 800 and you called and he had a queen! He tried to buy the pot and you didn't let him but you gave him a chance to draw out on the river and that's what he did. But I'm sure it is because of the site.
Hand 14 - You had Q6o and you folded. This is really compelling evidence here. I'm glad you posted this hand history because I don't think you could have made your case without it.
Hand 15 - You had T6o and you folded. I can't believe support didn't understand your point, did you send this hand??? This one really makes it pretty obvious.
Hand 16 - You had 87o and you folded. Your 87s won, so why didn't you call with the unsuited version? Oh yeah, it's not suited so it's not as good because being suited makes a hand so much better.
Hand 17 - You had JJ and moved all in preflop. You were up against 77 and he caught a 7 on the river. Obviously that NEVER happens so that is the definative proof.
Hand 18 - You had T3s and folded. I don't understand this fold but it's your money I guess.
Hand 19 - You had 88 and moved all in preflop and didn't get a caller. You won the pot so the site must be rigged.
Hand 20 - You had T5o and folded. What do you only play pocket aces?? What is wrong with this hand???
Hand 21 - You had 55 and moved all in preflop. The flop brought a jack almost eliminating you from contention in this hand. The turn brought a 5 and the river a 4th spade to give you the winning flush. The site IS rigged!!!! Oh wait, you won this hand as a huge underdog all the way. How does this help make your case??
Hand 22 - You had T7o in the big blind and checked. The flop came 8T6 with two hearts. You faced a 1200 bet and with top pair and outside straight draw you moved all in. Your opponent folded and you won the pot. How does this make your case stronger?
Hand 23 - You had 77 and moved all in preflop. Everyone folded and you won the pot. I see where you are going with this now. It's really pretty suspicious.
Hand 24 - You had J3o and you folded. This was a previous tournament according to your post and I'm glad you posted this because I see a lot of similarity between this tournament and the other one you posted.
Hand 25 - You had 23s and you folded. Again, the pattern emerges. We're really getting somewhere now.
Hand 26 - You had AA and you were all in preflop. You were up against QQ and 88 and the 8's hit their set to take the pot down. This never happens, ever. Although yesterday I was in a hand against KK, JJ and 99 with pocket sixes and I hit my set and won. That's really weird. Maybe Pokerstars wants me to have all your money. Want to play heads up??
So let's see, you posted 26 hand histories. You lost with AA, KK and JJ against smaller pocket pairs. You won with 55 against a higher pocket pair. You folded 15 times, those hands were really helpful, you should post a lot more of those. You moved all in preflop 7 times and lost 3 of those. Maybe, and this is just out in left field here, all in isn't really the best move to make preflop. It doesn't give you a chance to do anything but watch the cards fall and hope. The skill is taken from the game and luck takes over. And maybe, just maybe, you won with the worst hand sometimes too. If the site was rigged, why would YOU win the worst hand?? It just doesn't add up. I'll talk to my programmer buddies and see if they can fix that bug so that doesn't happen anymore. Oh, wait, you are banned, so it won't matter. Maybe it's because you are so friendly and so able to explain clearly what the problem was. I'm sure that had you sent these 26 hand histories to PokerStars that they would have seen the light. You need to send them to them because they don't have access to them.
Really, I think you must be the worst poker player ever because any poker player worth their salt never loses when they have the best hand preflop. I have 100% win rate with AA, KK, QQ, JJ, TT, 99, 88, 77, 66, 55, 44, 33, 22, AK, AQ, KQ, AJ, oh yeah and 89s. I'm pretty sure everyone else in these forums does too. So the only conclusion I can come to is that you just don't know how to play. I mean, really, how could anyone possibly lose with AA? It just never happens. You suck, I rock. See ya!
__________________ Nobody is always a winner, and anybody who says he is, is either a liar or doesn't play poker. -- Amarillo Slim You say how could I make that call? How could you make that bet? We're playing poker, not solitaire. -- Doyle Brunson | |
04-17-2006, 02:45 AM
| | | | I cant beleive i wasted a good 35 minutes reading all those hand history's, and i thought i posted alot of history....
please, you just lost a few hands, when take a real horrible beat, let me know, you sucked out on people like they "sucked out on you" damn pocket queens beat pocket kings...never ever saw that before, nope, must be against you. Thanks for the giant waste of time. | | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | |
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