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Play Kd-8d from the SB on the bubble of a SNG?

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Old 01-02-2005, 04:08 AM
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Default Play Kd-8d from the SB on the bubble of a SNG?

Hi all,

Just played this interesting hand at a SNG, and was wondering if anyone could give me some advice?

The scenario: PS SNG, we are 4-handed with the blinds at 100/200, about to go to 100/200 with a 25 ante. Stack sizes are 5300, 3500, 2500, and I have 2200.

In the small blind, I have Kd-8d. UTG (stack size 2500) calls, I limp, and BB (5300) checks.

The flop comes Ad-6d-6s. I check, BB checks, and UTG bets 400, which I call. BB folds.
The turn is the 2d, giving me the flush. I check, UTG bets 600, and I call.
The river is the Ah. I check, UTG goes all in, and I call. UTG shows A4 off, and IGHN.

I'm not sure if this is poor play or just poor luck.

1. Post-flop: I think my stack is a little too large to just push in and hope for the best. An all-in bet at this stage could win the pot immediately, but with these stack sizes I was hoping to double-up if my flush hits, and waiting for another opportunity if I either get pushed off the pot or a blank hits. When UTG bet only 400 into a pot of 600, I think the implied odds are right for a call.

2. Turn: Once my flush came in, I wanted to get all of UTG's money. I chose a check-call, since I did not want the fold that a check-raise might induce. Once UTG bets 600, perhaps I should just go all in here. I just called, because I was hoping to double up. Sidebar: what would you have done when the flush card hit and you have aces up?

3. River: I confess, I got lost on the river. I had put UTG on something like KQ, KJ, QJ, or Ax. Going all-in on the river gets the same result as checking and calling, on this hand, but I wonder what is best in general. It doesn't seem right that an ace on the river should scare me off, leaving me with only 1000 left.

In general, I think I played this OK. Granted, I was greedy, particularly on the turn. But given my hand and his likely ones, I think I was about a 90% chance to double up.

Thanks for the advice.
  
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going allin on the river was the only mistake I saw, i mean it's pretty obvious your beat, unless he was on a total bluff whcih i wouldnt put him on by the way he ws betting
  
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Since you had the nut flush on the turn, and were pot committed (I know that term is lame) in my opinion the only play was to go all in when you got it, and not check raise. You and I both know that you have to assume he has an A in the hole and you and I know he had to assume that you hit the flush. If he was a good player he would have laid down 2 pair against a flush. Since you had no worries about being screwed by a flush from him, that is what I would have done.

But, the bottom line is he and you were both streched out in chips and he would have pushed anyway. That was just a horrible situation to be put in. Damned if you do, and damned if you don't.
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