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Old 12-02-2008, 07:22 AM
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Hi guys,

I get blinded out every time I play a turbo.

Stealing the blinds helps.

I'm playing my premium hands better. I guess I could also push with pairs above 6+6-

But I'm guessing in the beginning that I need to quickly study my opponents and know who to call because they play crap cards and who will fold easily after they raise and isolate these people too.

But could you elaborate on my ideas and tell me your own ideas.

Like I said, I get blinded out every time.
  
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Old 12-02-2008, 07:50 AM
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Just try and play basic strategy poker with a few selective moves here and there nothing crazy and you should do ok, yes I think so.

U are getting blinded away bob? You have to stop this immdiately. When the blinds reach 50 100 and you have 1000 chips or less you need to be pushing allin with any suited connector, any ace, or any tj through kj scenario. even maybe as high as 1300 on the chipstack count.

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Great.

What about pairs when I've got 10 times the BB.
  
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Yes bob pairs would see the same action. Here is a good tip for you in full table or sng play. When someone fires at you on the flop and you decide to call with whatever your hand might be or raise if you think it's good enoguh. Now having said that, when the turn hits and it's time for them to act on their hand most players will not bet again unless they are strong, look for the chek and then play your hand accordingly if you need to go ahead and bluff there do it if you have a small something say 2nd pair or an open ender then take a free card, more than likely the 2nd pair or weak top pair is good or if you miss the draw and they are showing weakness after their flop bet then take the pot from them on the river, usually a 3/4s pot size bet will do the trick. gl bob

Oh yes if they did bet out at you heavy on 4th street it's probably good idea to get rid of the hands I talked about, unless you have the player read for an absolute maniac like say crapshoot likes to play, then I would just go ahead and send those kind of moosh players allin.

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Hi guys,

I get blinded out every time I play a turbo.

Stealing the blinds helps.

I'm playing my premium hands better. I guess I could also push with pairs above 6+6-

But I'm guessing in the beginning that I need to quickly study my opponents and know who to call because they play crap cards and who will fold easily after they raise and isolate these people too.

But could you elaborate on my ideas and tell me your own ideas.

Like I said, I get blinded out every time.
hello weikelbob, if u are finding yourself getting blinded away every time this has got to stop buddy. Here is one move i want u to put into your bag of tricks. When the blinds hit 50 or 100 level, and u are in small blind vs. only the big blind , i want u to start moving all in in this spot preflop with 12 big blinds or less, this is a percentage play that will work 75% of the time or so. Ur hand doesnt matter, all u are doing here is forcing the big blind to pick up a hand to call u with, and more times than not, they wont have a good enough hand to call u with buddy. Try this out and see how u like it. Also 12 big blinds or less in a sitngo, u need to shove all in with the hands u want to play , i suggest KT and up, any Ace high , any pair, u need to shove all in in these situations to keep urself from blinding out. Also move all in from the button if nobody else comes into the pot in front of u with 10 big blinds or less, it is another great play, again u are forcing the blinds to have to pick up a strong enough hand to call u with, which more times than not they wont. GL buddy


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Bob,
From previous posts, it sounds like you play the very low buy-ins like myself. I do better in the turbo's it seems. I actually made $50 in my last 3 turbo tourneys at Pokerstars that I bought in for a total of $4(I'm not blowing smoke, you can check sharkscope). At these buy-in levels the players are not very good. Combine that with blinds increasing very often and it just magnifies there poor play. You have to start getting into the cheap pots early. The ones with 3-4 limpers. Who cares what your cards are. If you you hit the flop hard someone will overplay there middle pair against you or there top pair. You will also be getting very good pot odds for your big draws in these pots. That is how you don't get blinded out. You will be above the average chip stacks all the way through (unless you run into a monster). Then you will be able to call the all-in's for a third of your stack with no chance of getting bounced. I think you are putting to much weight into what your starting hands need to be.
  
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Just try and play basic strategy poker with a few selective moves here and there nothing crazy and you should do ok, yes I think so.

U are getting blinded away bob? You have to stop this immdiately. When the blinds reach 50 100 and you have 1000 chips or less you need to be pushing allin with any suited connector, any ace, or any tj through kj scenario. even maybe as high as 1300 on the chipstack count.
This is not a great idea in my opinion. It may work for you gimme but most people play a more conservative style than this. This style can provide a nice double up but you will be in 50/50 situations more than you would like to be. Based on the fact that you get blinded out a lot, my guess is you play a little more conservative. Turbos are not for conservative players but they can be won. Now, you will have to be more aggressive. But instead of waiting till you are low to get aggressive, use position throughout the game to be aggressive. Any playable hand that you have good position and no raise, raise it up and use the advantage of acting near last, or last, to gain information and pick up some chips throughout.
  
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So if I'm on the button with a suited connector and there are 4 limpers, I should raise?

So if I'm in the cutoff with K9o and I've got 20X the BB, and there is an early position limper and a middle position limper, I should raise in a turbo?

I play in smaller stakes but I want to move up.

When I have 20X the BB or more, I like to sit around and wait for AJo or 10+10- or better if there are lots of limpers in the turbo. I assume this is too tight because when I get 12X the BB or less I like to go all in with any pair, K10 or better like Cat5scan and Gimme suggested.

I'm learning so much, how does turbo play compare with my local freerolls I play in where blinds go up only every 20 minutes. Does everything still apply?
  
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just chop it up when the blinds get that high

bob, don't let rw confuse you, the thread is about be blinding away and if you continue to find yourself in these shortstack situations then I would use the power play strategy on them that was explained in my last post. gl

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So if I'm on the button with a suited connector and there are 4 limpers, I should raise?

So if I'm in the cutoff with K9o and I've got 20X the BB, and there is an early position limper and a middle position limper, I should raise in a turbo?
no no no no....

The advice Cat and Gimme are giving is for when you have 12 BB's or under, you are in LP (Cut off, Button, SB) and the pot has been unopened. shoving allin in these spots is often correct with pretty weak hands...because you are forcing the blinds to find a hand and often they all fold and you pick up the pot. Then when you are called your often not that big of a dog and can suckout.

I will explain this all in great depth to you including ICM, shoving/calling ranges and general play and strategy when we begin coaching...like ive said..give me a few weeks to free up my schedule and we can get you crushing the small stakes games
  
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