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What level SNGs to play Playing Online  | | 
08-13-2008, 03:17 AM
| | | |  What level SNGs to play
Hello,
I do OK in $1.20 SNG on Pokerstars.
I like to play premium cards with marginal hands when reads or position allow.
Because of my budget, I play $1.20 SNGs. But I'm wondering if I should be playing $10 games since I have so many people calling me with hands that draw out better against me.
For example, I'll wait for AK or AJ in middle position and someone will call me with K8o.
If the A10 or AJ called me, like I am assuming would happen in a $10 game, I would do a lot better.
Also, it's sometimes hard to read people that don't know what they're doing.
So I'm wondering if I should save up $200-$300 to deposit and play $10 games or if I you guys think I would not play well against players in the $10 games either.
I realize that early in the SNG it's about implied odds and later in the game its about stealing the blinds.
Please advise,
Thanks,
Bob | | |
08-13-2008, 03:46 AM
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Play the 5.50s...The level of play is very poor but not to the point where the players are clueless...aslong as your tight and know how to play Shove/fold poker later on (when the blinds are big) in + EV situations you'll make alot of money....
I have alot of experience of those games and the $10 ones (40%+ ROI) so if you ever need some advice or feedback on hands etc.. feel free to PM me...
Good luck : ) | | |
08-13-2008, 03:53 AM
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If depositing isn't too much of a problem for you, the making a move up to $5.50s wouldn't be such a bad idea - just be prepared to reload in case you get unlucky before you can build up your bankroll or simply can't beat the games (although I doubt that will be the case).
If depositing is a problem for you...just keep grinding it out. It seems you are doing good at the penny cash tables, perhaps you should play there to build your bankroll until you can afford the $5 games.
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08-13-2008, 05:16 AM
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$50 and up | | |
08-13-2008, 05:31 AM
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My advice is to play any level that you can afford to lose at.
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08-13-2008, 07:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GetTheShades  My advice is to play any level that you can afford to lose at. | I agree, but everyone has to find out for himself what level to play. I often play HU's varying between 5 and 50 $ and, since I know this forum, the §5 THF games. Nice people, lots of fun and over all: NO DONKS  .
Regarding the HU's: under $5 I lost most of the time because some people at that level went all in most of the times, the higher levels are a lot smoother to play as are the THF games.
Pierre | | |
08-14-2008, 06:37 AM
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Thanks guys.
@K0mars: I will try the penny tables again, good call.
@JaC170 and everyone else:
It's interesting that the early wins don't count much unless you double your stack. I thus play very premium cards (keeping the pots small unless I've got a super read). But what I like to play is a pair or a suited ace for implied odds reasons - to double up.
Do you guys suggest calling a 3X raise in the first couple of blind raises with a pair? My idea is to call AA with my 66 and catch a 6 on the flop to double up. But that's just an example.
I usually look for the other person's stack to be 20 times as big as the bet I'm calling. If the bet is 80 and the person's stack is 780 then the implied odds might not be right if I'm calling a raise. What are you guys opinions here?
I'll call from any position with a pair or suited ace if I think I can see a cheap flop. I'll call from suited connecters from late position, but I like suited aces and pairs much better because they can flop the nuts. What is you guys opinion here.
Finally, I'll steal the blinds when the big blind hits 50/100 at the cutoff, button, and small blind. What size raises do you guys like to use for stealing blinds?
I'm not very good at stealing the blinds yet, can you give me any basic pointers?
Finally, if I'm under 10 BBs, I'll go all in if I make a move, and I'll continue to look for "spots" to go all in to steal the blinds.
Looking for some basic pointers to improve my game.
Thanks! | | |
08-14-2008, 06:50 AM
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I forgot one important question:
How do you track what strength of hand to steal the blinds with? Anyone with K10 or A2 on the button can steal the blinds, but some say you can do it with any 2 cards.
I like to have a marginal hand or better to steal the blinds, but I'm wondering if that's too tight in some situations.
I'm sure there's many variables, and maybe you can tell me about them as I'm new to stealing the blinds.
Thanks again! | | |
08-14-2008, 06:38 PM
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Excerpt from your first post:
"Also, it's sometimes hard to read people that don't know what they're doing."
I doubt that most of the low-level-players ever heard of such things as Outs, Odds or even pot odds etc. Seems sometimes they raise, reraise or go all in without thinking.
Just take a look at the HH-post by Lurock2k5
Similar happens to me all the time.  | | |
08-14-2008, 06:59 PM
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As far as small pairs go, I play them to small raises up to the 25/50 level (and they must have atleast 15 times the raise size in their stack)...after that the implied odds become too small and your risking a too large % of your stack...
Suited aces I don't like as much, because you can get in some tricky spots when you flop top pair...but if your discplined and know when to fold em then yea they are also good implied odds hands...though I only tend to limp in with them after a succession of limpers...
as far as raising with any 2 goes..its very situational (and dependant on 4 specific variables 1) your stack size 2) the blinds size 3) teh stack sizes of your oppenents behind you and 4) how many players you have to get through)...say for example im on the button with 8 6 s...i have 1,500 in chips...blinds are 75/150... and the blinds have 2,350 and 2,800...
if it folds to me i shove this in an instant (with any 2 cards except maybe 23 o and 42 o)...because i have 10 BB's and only two players to get through (the blinds also have nice stack sizes, and will have tight calling ranges because they don't want to jepordize a large proportion of their stack with a marginal hand - if the BB had 900 in chips for example, i would need a pretty strong hand to shove the button and i would fold 8 6 s because their calling standards are much lower and they'll probably gamble with any ace/2 high cards..)....
1 other point:
If your going to steal the blinds, and all the variables are in place (you are in LP, with a small stack size in comparison to blinds, and the blinds do not have tiny stacks..) never make it 3 - 4 x the blinds, you have to shove all in...because if you get re-shoved on by one of the blinds your pretty committed anyway...better to shove and maximise fold equity...put THEM to the decision
If im deep stacked then i will raise the blinds with any marginal hand from LP (high/mid suited connectors, broadways, any pair..)...if the big blind is very tight i will raise any 2 cards from the cut off, button and SB..
Sorry if im rambling alot, Im typing quickly and probably not explianing this very well...if you have any other questions feel free to post here/PM....
Last edited by JayC170; 08-14-2008 at 07:13 PM.
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