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08-11-2008, 10:11 PM
| | | | Always Every fckn time...I am BB with A6s...I check my BB...flop is A6K...I bet 100, UTG raises to 400...so I'm just hoping that he doesn't have AK (and why would he since he only limped) I figure him for a strong Ace...I go all-in, he calls with AQ...turn is a K also giving him 2 pair and giving him a higher kicker. I can almost bank on it, if I flop 2 pair the board is going to pair...but it will never happen in reverse and board pair to beat an opponents 2 pair....it's fckn sick.
Go ahead Ratfink and tell me that I should not have gone all-in because even though I firured right, I always have to assume that he could also hit his kicker in the next 2 cards. But if I played it out with checks or small bets and the K turns or rivers or he hits his kicker on those 2 cards...you would say...Oh yea, you got to bet your 2 pair strong or all-in to keep him from seeing more cards.
It's just so amazing how you two could be 100% right after the fact....maybe you could get a job with a professional football team as a Monday morning quarterback and on Monday morning you could send in the plays to the bench in yesterdays game.
Last edited by CRAPSHOOT; 08-11-2008 at 10:29 PM.
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08-11-2008, 11:09 PM
| | | | Make the right decisions and in the long run you will be rewarded by variance, stop basing everything on results..and hell, if you really are running as bad as you say then your due for some luck very soon....so keep on grindin instead of complaining | |
08-11-2008, 11:53 PM
| | | | It's good to see you are still having so much fun at your little hobby  | |
08-12-2008, 12:25 AM
| | | | My question to you is... if the hands you are ahead NEVER hold up and you NEVER outdraw your opponents, then how do you EVER win? I have to ask because even you win sometimes... I mean, in your last 50 games even you have come out ahead in 18 of them. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Crapshoot Go ahead Ratfink and tell me that I should not have gone all-in because even though I firured right, I always have to assume that he could also hit his kicker in the next 2 cards. But if I played it out with checks or small bets and the K turns or rivers or he hits his kicker on those 2 cards...you would say...Oh yea, you got to bet your 2 pair strong or all-in to keep him from seeing more cards. | As for this, I don't pick apart the HHs you post (unless it is something blatently stupid like calling all in with K7 or losing 20,000 chips in the Sunday million with 83 because you were trying to steal a 200 chip BB). I don't recall telling you that you are stupid for pushing or calling all in in specific posted HHs when you were ahead. My advice to you, which has never changed, is simply stop pushing all in as often as you do. Stop playing every hand that you are involved in for all of your chips. You win some and you lose some (yes, EVEN YOU win some as stated above)... but you play tournaments with 9+ people in it with the style of getting all of your chips in when you are 51%, 60%, 70% to win the hand. While you may be favored to win the individual hands, the odds are strongly against you winning them without taking a beat (the odds of winning 2 hands in a row where you are a 70% favorite is under 50%).
If you would like to start winning consistantly, grab hold of that concept. It's not my opinion, it's fact based on simple mathematics. Slow the hell down. Play for smaller pots, try building your stack slowly rather than in large chunks.
Believe it or not, successful tournament players don't LIKE getting all of their chips in the pot as 60% and 70% favorites. Doing this makes you vulnerable... at that point everything is completely out of your hands and, the majority of the time, it's only going to take a single card to beat you.
Why do I even keep trying? Beats the hell out of me. Do you enjoy being a failure at poker? | |
08-12-2008, 12:53 AM
| | | | I play normal poker my friend...I am not an all-in freak, but I will not also fold a King high club flush to no flush 8 high heart like you will either and I will bet them if I have them.
Let's face it playing poker at PS is the same thing as playing "Lotto"...scratch off the next card...let's see if it matches mine.
Last edited by CRAPSHOOT; 08-12-2008 at 01:10 AM.
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08-12-2008, 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by CRAPSHOOT I play normal poker my friend...I am not an all-in freak, but I will not also fold a King high club flush to no flush 8 high heart like you will either and I will bet them if I have them. | I believe there were 4 clubs on the board with me betting, he raised, I reraised, and he came over the top again... calling the rest of my chips there against a very good HU player isn't exactly the smartest move. Fairly certain when a hand goes down that way I am behind more often than I'm ahead (it's called being able to fold a good hand when a single card can beat you). Keep playing how ya like, you do very well with it Quote: |
Originally Posted by Crapshoot Let's face it playing poker at PS is the same thing as playing "Lotto"...scratch off the next card...let's see if it matches mine. | Whatever makes ya feel better  | |
08-12-2008, 03:45 AM
| | | | I don't care how you play...when this shit keeps happening...you are going to lose:
Seat 1: jglathar (1420 in chips)
Seat 2: xCRAPSHOOTx (650 in chips)
Seat 3: smiley14u (1370 in chips)
Seat 4: vermette23 (1660 in chips)
Seat 5: cjfro (250 in chips)
Seat 6: sandbaggin4U (1330 in chips)
Seat 7: Kevchef23 (2900 in chips)
Seat 8: rachl47 (2450 in chips)
Seat 9: ordep reklaw (1470 in chips)
smiley14u: posts small blind 15
vermette23: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to xCRAPSHOOTx [Qc Qh]
cjfro: folds
sandbaggin4U: calls 30
Kevchef23: folds
rachl47: folds
ordep reklaw: raises 120 to 150
jglathar: folds
xCRAPSHOOTx: raises 500 to 650 and is all-in
smiley14u: folds
vermette23: folds
sandbaggin4U: folds
ordep reklaw: calls 500
*** FLOP *** [Td 3d 3s]
*** TURN *** [Td 3d 3s] [Js]
*** RIVER *** [Td 3d 3s Js] [3h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ordep reklaw: shows [Jc Jd] (a full house, Jacks full of Threes)
xCRAPSHOOTx: shows [Qc Qh] (a full house, Threes full of Queens)
ordep reklaw collected 1375 from pot
ordep reklaw said, "sorry"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1375 | Rake 0
Board [Td 3d 3s Js 3h]
Seat 1: jglathar folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: xCRAPSHOOTx (button) showed [Qc Qh] and lost with a full house, Threes full of Queens
Seat 3: smiley14u (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: vermette23 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: cjfro folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: sandbaggin4U folded before Flop
Seat 7: Kevchef23 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: rachl47 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: ordep reklaw showed [Jc Jd] and won (1375) with a full house, Jacks full of Threes
Especially when it happens an ungodly amount of times....and never ever in reverse.
And No, I am not going to play out the hand and when I see a J hit the board say.."Oh he must have a set of Jacks and fold"
Last edited by CRAPSHOOT; 08-12-2008 at 04:02 AM.
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08-12-2008, 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by FinK22 I believe there were 4 clubs on the board with me betting, he raised, I reraised, and he came over the top again... calling the rest of my chips there against a very good HU player isn't exactly the smartest move. Fairly certain when a hand goes down that way I am behind more often than I'm ahead (it's called being able to fold a good hand when a single card can beat you). Keep playing how ya like, you do very well with it
Whatever makes ya feel better  | Geez Fink...how many hands have you been in when you look at all the possible combinations of cards on board and possible cards in your opponents hands where there is no possible combination that can beat your cards...yet alone cards to hit the board...you must get some nice hands, if those are the only hands you call or bet! | |
08-12-2008, 04:49 AM
| | | | I don't know where in the tourney this happened cause you don't supply the HH. Early in a tourney I rarely raise with AK, simply because donks will call 5x a $20 blind in lower limit buy-ins, and lets face it AK isn't much unless you hit the flop. So why go all-in instead of making a more reasonable bet. If you lose, you lose but still have chips to play with. Villian calls your bet so slow down. Anytime you go all in you risk your survival, and is not good unless you hold the nuts on the river.
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08-12-2008, 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by CRAPSHOOT Geez Fink...how many hands have you been in when you look at all the possible combinations of cards on board and possible cards in your opponents hands where there is no possible combination that can beat your cards...yet alone cards to hit the board...you must get some nice hands, if those are the only hands you call or bet! | Isn't exactly your typical situation. When there are 4 clubs on the board and a pot is raised 4 times, more often than not someone has the ace of clubs.
You don't have to have the nuts, but when a single card can beat you why go crazy with it?
If the board is 5678, how many bets/raises does it take before you figure out your 4 is no good?
If the board is KKQQ3, how many bets/raises does it take before you figure out your Q is no good?
If the board is QQQAA, how many bets/raises does it take before you even start to consider that maybe your A is no good? | | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | |
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