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Old 08-10-2008, 06:15 AM
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I wish there was a way to track but as far as I know there is not. I lose more money on Saturday nights at PS than any other night. I know I'm playing right into someones hands but i have to share this HH. keep in mind this is from a $12 180 man sng.

PokerStars Game #19499248870: Tournament #101211658, $11+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/08/10 - 00:53:40 (ET)
Table '101211658 8' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: saigon2000 (1860 in chips)
Seat 2: mickeyc2929 (610 in chips)
Seat 3: GDC2 (1460 in chips)
Seat 4: bsquared20 (1450 in chips)
Seat 5: BSQUAD2001 (1470 in chips)
Seat 6: sekos2007 (1480 in chips)
Seat 7: tpp2 (1220 in chips)
Seat 8: josh80josh (2410 in chips)
Seat 9: RiverMonkey (1540 in chips)
sekos2007: posts small blind 10
tpp2: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BSQUAD2001 [2s 2c]
josh80josh: calls 20
RiverMonkey: folds
saigon2000: raises 80 to 100
mickeyc2929: raises 80 to 180
GDC2: folds
bsquared20: calls 180
BSQUAD2001: folds

Its been raised and reraised, Still level "1", and no sense in thinking of even calling here.

sekos2007: folds
tpp2: raises 80 to 260
josh80josh: folds
saigon2000: calls 160
mickeyc2929: raises 80 to 340

More raises and reraises, sure glad I threw the ducks away

bsquared20: calls 160
This guy almost has same name as me

tpp2: calls 80
saigon2000: calls 80
*** FLOP *** [Qh 2d Tc]

I would of flopped a set. Aint that always the way

tpp2: checks
saigon2000: checks
mickeyc2929: checks
bsquared20: bets 1110 and is all-in
tpp2: calls 880 and is all-in
saigon2000: calls 1110
mickeyc2929: calls 270 and is all-in


Wow!!! 4 all-ins this early in a $12 sng. Must be huge hands????

*** TURN *** [Qh 2d Tc] [3d]
*** RIVER *** [Qh 2d Tc 3d] [Qc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
saigon2000: shows [Ks Jh] (a pair of Queens)
bsquared20: shows [Ah Td] (two pair, Queens and Tens)
bsquared20 collected 460 from side pot-2
tpp2: shows [8d 8c] (two pair, Queens and Eights)
bsquared20 collected 1830 from side pot-1
mickeyc2929: shows [9d Ad] (a pair of Queens)
bsquared20 collected 2470 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4760 Main pot 2470. Side pot-1 1830. Side pot-2 460. | Rake 0
Board [Qh 2d Tc 3d Qc]
Seat 1: saigon2000 showed [Ks Jh] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 2: mickeyc2929 showed [9d Ad] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 3: GDC2 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: bsquared20 showed [Ah Td] and won (4760) with two pair, Queens and Tens
Seat 5: BSQUAD2001 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: sekos2007 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: tpp2 (big blind) showed [8d 8c] and lost with two pair, Queens and Eights
Seat 8: josh80josh folded before Flop
Seat 9: RiverMonkey folded before Flop (didn't bet)


Not a single player even had Top pair when the all-in fest began after the flop.

Moral of the story is..........

I dont mind a couple maniacs at my table. I'll get their chips eventually. But when theres 4 or 5 out of 9 , the odds are against you. I decided to move up in limits on Saturdays to avoid the masses only to find I may need to move up a little more.

In no way am I saying that PS is full of Donkey/LuckBox's. I dont want to go there. But their are more than usual on Saturday nights and if you want to avoid them, I suggest moving to limits higher than the $12 180 man sng's.

Anyone have any success on Saturdays in particular at the $20 levels, as thats where I may need to go next. Any suggestions are appreciated.
  
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Here's a graph of your results, SnG wise, for each day of the week (courtesy of sharkscope):
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During current Hold'em session you were dealt 33 hands and saw flop:
- 0 out of 3 times while in big blind (0%)
- 0 out of 3 times while in small blind (0%)
- 2 out of 27 times in other positions (7%)
- a total of 2 out of 33 (6%)
Pots won at showdown - 0 of 1 (0%)
Pots won without showdown - 0


PokerStars Game #19499680120: Tournament #101211658, $11+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (125/250) - 2008/08/10 - 01:22:04 (ET)
Table '101211658 18' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: BSQUAD2001 (1115 in chips)
Seat 2: SierraData (10485 in chips)
Seat 3: X-Factor16 (3610 in chips)
Seat 4: jaden c. (3185 in chips)
Seat 5: LeafJam (2514 in chips)
Seat 6: Bluegrouse25 (6431 in chips)
Seat 7: calgaryjamie (655 in chips)
Seat 8: FARID2747 (520 in chips)
Seat 9: Imrocky67 (12035 in chips)
BSQUAD2001: posts the ante 25
SierraData: posts the ante 25
X-Factor16: posts the ante 25
jaden c.: posts the ante 25
LeafJam: posts the ante 25
Bluegrouse25: posts the ante 25
calgaryjamie: posts the ante 25
FARID2747: posts the ante 25
Imrocky67: posts the ante 25
FARID2747: posts small blind 125
Imrocky67: posts big blind 250
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BSQUAD2001 [Kh Ks]
BSQUAD2001: raises 250 to 500
SierraData: folds
X-Factor16: folds
jaden c.: calls 500
LeafJam: folds
Bluegrouse25: folds
calgaryjamie: raises 130 to 630 and is all-in
FARID2747: folds
Imrocky67: folds
BSQUAD2001: calls 130
jaden c.: calls 130
*** FLOP *** [4s Ah Th]
BSQUAD2001: bets 460 and is all-in
jaden c.: calls 460
*** TURN *** [4s Ah Th] [9d]
BSQUAD2001 said, "of course"
*** RIVER *** [4s Ah Th 9d] [8d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
BSQUAD2001: shows [Kh Ks] (a pair of Kings)
jaden c.: shows [Tc Ad] (two pair, Aces and Tens)
jaden c. collected 920 from side pot
calgaryjamie: shows [As Qh] (a pair of Aces)
jaden c. collected 2490 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3410 Main pot 2490. Side pot 920. | Rake 0
Board [4s Ah Th 9d 8d]
Seat 1: BSQUAD2001 showed [Kh Ks] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 2: SierraData folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: X-Factor16 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: jaden c. showed [Tc Ad] and won (3410) with two pair, Aces and Tens
Seat 5: LeafJam folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Bluegrouse25 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: calgaryjamie (button) showed [As Qh] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 8: FARID2747 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: Imrocky67 (big blind) folded before Flop


At this point I was just looking to gamble and try and triple or quadruple up. Figured the 2xbb raise would entice more callers. (LOL what was I thinking) Like it really mattered at this point. The play was just so overly agressive I never even had an opportunity. For a split second when I saw they were both drawing to the same 2 outs I thought I had a chance. (LOL what was I thinking)

Geeez. Here we go again. Some may ridicule my tight play especially in a turbo but you need to understand I generally dont play this tight. Also, I just took 2nd in one of these $12 turbos last week playing my same tight game (Albeit, not this tight) ...... It was just crazy agressive from box to wire. It was raise, reraise, reraise, all-in just about every hand. I cashed out $400 from my last win and now all my cards are losers again. Must I go through this everytime I cash out????

OK my conspiracy theory about the cash-out curse is a little far fetched. I'm sure its pure coincidence. Or is it??????????? Hmmmmmmmmmm??????

OK done ranting.... for tonight that is
  
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Here's a graph of your results, SnG wise, for each day of the week (courtesy of sharkscope):

WOW thanks Mars......... That is great. I knew with all that technology out there, that there must be a way to check those things. You are my new hero.
and just as I suspected....... Saturdays shows "O" profit....... that is if I'm reading it right. Surprised it doesnt show negative like on Sunday.

Again, Thanks Mars.
  
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I'd be curious to know if others experience the same type results during the different days of the weeks.

I'm sure some dont want their graphs shown (To me it doesnt matter). So if some others could chime in with just their top 3 days and their bottom 3 days I'd like to see if there is a trend here.

Not sure if you need a subscription to Sharkscope or not to get that info, but if you do...... Mars obviously has one and you could just post your inquiries in this thread and maybe Mars wouldnt mind posting some of the results.

Thanks again Mars
  
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Best are Friday, Wednesday, Thursday

Worst are Monday, Saturday, Tuesday

I wouldn't put much stock in my worst days though... if you look at my SS graph I went from 0 down to -$1000 in the first 30 or so games that I ever played (currently at even). Seriously doubt it would have mattered at the time what days of the week those were heheheh
  
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Looks like your showing jut a little profit on Saturdays and a +10% ROI Bsquad
but Saturday are certainly your worst day.

I agree, Saturday nights are crazy in stars. You do seem to find far worse
players on those nights. Ok, you want bad players but, for example, when I'm getting 3 or 4 callers to my preflop re-raises at 6max tables it can all get a bit silly.
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No you don't need to subscribe, but they charge you one of your 5 free searches per day. After you search for your name, click on your name and some graphs will come up. Over on the right click on MORE OPTIONS, then on GRAPH RESULTS BY....

My worst days are Saturday at ($-280) and Thursday ($-200). Might just take a break on those two days.

The Turbos you play, lend themselves to alot a crazy play, and you need to catch strong hands quickly, play them strong and hope they hold up. they are NOT something I would recommend playing on a regular basis
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also if you have poker tracker you can break up your play by days
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OK 3 players chimed in with their stats and so far all 3 have Saturdays ranked as one of or "the" worst day for profit. Interesting.


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I wouldn't put much stock in my worst days though... if you look at my SS graph I went from 0 down to -$1000 in the first 30 or so games that I ever played (currently at even). Seriously doubt it would have mattered at the time what days of the week those were heheheh
I hear what your saying Fink on not putting too much stock into it. Probably wouldnt have mattered which days you played your first 30 games. Maybe its coincidence that Saturday happens to be one of your worst days for profit. But then again, Why wasn't it Friday?

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I agree, Saturday nights are crazy in stars. You do seem to find far worse
players on those nights. Ok, you want bad players but, for example, when I'm getting 3 or 4 callers to my preflop re-raises at 6max tables it can all get a bit silly.
exactly my point 7. It seems like Saturday brings out an increase in every highschool kid with $20 to burn. No logic of the game other than what they see on TV. To me it seems that it is drastically reducing my odds of making a profit. I've been saying this for a while without even knowing if there was a stat that could confirm it. Obviously there is and obviously "to me" It has been proven that I lose more money on a Saturday. Its also been confirmed by at least 2 other "premium players" that Saturdays has also proven to be their worst days for profit as well.

I'd like to see more input. If 6 others chime in and they all say Saturdays is amongst their most profitable days then maybe I'll need to reconsider. However, we are 3 for 3 right now. And if 6 more all come out and agree that Saturdays seem to be their least profitable days then maybe we all need to look into either sitting out the saturdays or finding a game/level in which we can make a profit at.

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My worst days are Saturday at ($-280) and Thursday ($-200). Might just take a break on those two days.

The Turbos you play, lend themselves to alot a crazy play, and you need to catch strong hands quickly, play them strong and hope they hold up. they are NOT something I would recommend playing on a regular basis
I am beginning to agree with you Ref. I was seeking an alternate game as the normal 4,5,6$$ games where turning into freeroll type plays especially on Saturdays. I started with the $12 turbo's as my first stop. Just a coincidence that I ended up placing 2nd early on I guess. I'm starting to see the light on these much more clearly. It seems like any "turbo" game is the type of game that these highschool junkies are seeking out. Its either low money buy-ins as thats they all they can afford, or if they they do have $25-$50 in their account they want the faced paced thrill type action of a turbo game.

I'm going to try again next Saturday too seek an alternative. I'd like to say I will just give up playing Saturdays altogether but it's really the only day I have away from work as the only constant from my job is that I dont work Sundays. So Saturdays I can stay up as late as I want after the family goes to bed and I can sleep in on Sunday Mornings.

I will try some non-turbo $10-$15 multi-table sng's..... something you cant easily find on the main tournament screen. I will report back as to how I made out.

In the meantime,if some more players can chime in on their best and worst days as well if anyone has any success on Saturdays in particular and if so, which types of games you are playing.

Thanks for all the input guys.

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