It's getting discusting

It is really getting to me, every every time I am in a coin toss with the dominate hand I lose. I was just in the $10 re-buy and we were closing in on the money and I got knocked out here. I know that A9 is not that bad of a hand, but it is not a good hand either and if someone bet almost 20,000 chips into me with A9o I would have folded, but no the mother calls and hits the 9. I can see this shit happening some times...but 99.9% of the time! He has to put me on a pair or at least AK, AQ, surely anything above A9 and if he put me on a pair he has to figure that he only has one card to beat me...the A, now he might have figured that he had more chips than me, but I still would have halved his stack. I just don't understand these players and then they always always hit their trash kicker. I just don't know what to do anymore.


Table '86191286 145' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: pokerlake (17030 in chips)
Seat 2: ifib1ub12 (11053 in chips)
Seat 3: greek99 (42865 in chips)
Seat 4: coop488 (11365 in chips)
Seat 5: KIRBYLANE (49215 in chips)
Seat 6: ScorpionAzul (33290 in chips)
Seat 7: gabrygabry (18930 in chips)
Seat 8: georgesoul (17875 in chips)
Seat 9: xCRAPSHOOTx (18863 in chips)
pokerlake: posts the ante 75
ifib1ub12: posts the ante 75
greek99: posts the ante 75
coop488: posts the ante 75
KIRBYLANE: posts the ante 75
ScorpionAzul: posts the ante 75
gabrygabry: posts the ante 75
georgesoul: posts the ante 75
xCRAPSHOOTx: posts the ante 75
xCRAPSHOOTx: posts small blind 400
pokerlake: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to xCRAPSHOOTx [Ac Kc]
ifib1ub12: folds
greek99: folds
coop488: folds
KIRBYLANE: raises 800 to 1600
ScorpionAzul: folds
gabrygabry: folds
georgesoul: folds
xCRAPSHOOTx: raises 17188 to 18788 and is all-in
pokerlake: folds
KIRBYLANE: calls 17188
*** FLOP *** [2s 9c Ah]
*** TURN *** [2s 9c Ah] [3c]
*** RIVER *** [2s 9c Ah 3c] [As]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
xCRAPSHOOTx: shows [Ac Kc] (three of a kind, Aces)
KIRBYLANE: shows [Ad 9d] (a full house, Aces full of Nines)
KIRBYLANE collected 39051 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 39051 | Rake 0
Board [2s 9c Ah 3c As]
Seat 1: pokerlake (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: ifib1ub12 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: greek99 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: coop488 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: KIRBYLANE showed [Ad 9d] and won (39051) with a full house, Aces full of Nines
Seat 6: ScorpionAzul folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: gabrygabry folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: georgesoul (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: xCRAPSHOOTx (small blind) showed [Ac Kc] and lost with three of a kind, Aces

Just as in this hand in the same game:

2008/04/29 - 22:48:04 (ET)
Table '86191286 37' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: xCRAPSHOOTx (8798 in chips)
Seat 2: mentment (9557 in chips)
Seat 3: Ironfork (7305 in chips)
Seat 4: doub1eag1e (4075 in chips)
Seat 5: Droopy70 (1350 in chips)
Seat 6: saga973 (12205 in chips)
Seat 7: CulverCity15 (1525 in chips)
Seat 8: j23ace (4300 in chips)
Seat 9: foxybegood (1700 in chips)
foxybegood: posts small blind 75
xCRAPSHOOTx: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to xCRAPSHOOTx [Ah Qd]
mentment: folds
Ironfork: folds
doub1eag1e: raises 300 to 450
Droopy70: folds
saga973: calls 450
CulverCity15: folds
j23ace: folds
foxybegood: folds
xCRAPSHOOTx: calls 300
*** FLOP *** [As Jh Tc]
xCRAPSHOOTx: checks
doub1eag1e: checks
saga973: bets 600
xCRAPSHOOTx: calls 600
doub1eag1e: calls 600
*** TURN *** [As Jh Tc] [7d]
xCRAPSHOOTx: checks
doub1eag1e: checks
saga973: bets 450
xCRAPSHOOTx: calls 450
doub1eag1e: calls 450
*** RIVER *** [As Jh Tc 7d] [9s]
xCRAPSHOOTx: checks
doub1eag1e: checks
saga973: bets 1200
xCRAPSHOOTx: calls 1200
doub1eag1e: folds
*** SHOW DOWN ***
saga973: shows [Ac 9c] (two pair, Aces and Nines)
xCRAPSHOOTx: shows [Ah Qd] (a pair of Aces)
saga973 collected 6975 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 6975 | Rake 0
Board [As Jh Tc 7d 9s]
Seat 1: xCRAPSHOOTx (big blind) showed [Ah Qd] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 2: mentment folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Ironfork folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: doub1eag1e folded on the River
Seat 5: Droopy70 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: saga973 showed [Ac 9c] and won (6975) with two pair, Aces and Nines
Seat 7: CulverCity15 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: j23ace (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: foxybegood (small blind) folded before Flop

I already know that I am going to lose before the cards are shown. Now you might say that I should have raised him out of the hand before the river...no phucken way, we has in there no matter what! He would have put me on the J trying to buy it...you did not see his other plays.

It's a good thing that this is not the wild west and the games are played in a saloon with guns allowed, this consistent bullshit would cause me to flip.

Lord oh Lord may I please win a coin toss once in a while, you can even keep up the crap with the KK's.

People rely on memory way too much in case s likethis. Memories overstate the negative.

Do yourself a favor, take and hour, lo o katyour PT hand histories and you me be enlightened

Rocket, I know what you are saying but trust me...it is not an exaggeration, I was keeping track of them for month's and I was running below 1%...just when I was the dominate...lol forget outdrawing...that will never happen.

I don't know if I still have poker Tracker, it was on one of my 8 hard drives before I rebuilt my computer...it was registered, Fonz bought them for us, but I doubt if I can download it again and then contact them for the registration number.

crapshoot you played these 2 hands perfect man, nothing else can be done. ak suited is def. allin move there given blind lvls and a raiser in front of you and the aq was also played great. Very unfortunate to lose 1 of these hands letaloan both. To win these huge fields you are going to need to win just about every crucial race and def. every big hand where you have them crushed, that's just the way these big field tourneys go. Now put that together with the outrageous rigged hands you see online and most big field tourneys just come down to plain dumb luck. You will not in any way see this kind or amount of abuse in live tourneys, but that's the garbage you have to put up with in online poker. This is why I prefer heads up and smaller fields such as single tables, but mostly heads up. There is definitely more of a skill factor involved when your starting field is shorter. There are just so many timebombs you have to step over to win one of these big online tourneys and when you trigger 1 to blow up they end up blowing you up most of the time, with the help of stars.

I hear ya gimme:

Table '86566948 67' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: ROBERTO 211 (1285 in chips)
Seat 2: xCRAPSHOOTx (1135 in chips)
Seat 3: supernewf500 (1470 in chips)
Seat 4: Reams3 (2375 in chips)
Seat 5: lorrydix (4165 in chips)
Seat 6: damarooo (1665 in chips)
Seat 7: Cashcid Linc (3375 in chips)
Seat 8: AcidFaLL (1205 in chips)
Seat 9: rain_2 (3020 in chips)
AcidFaLL: posts small blind 15
rain_2: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to xCRAPSHOOTx [Kd Kc]
ROBERTO 211: calls 30
xCRAPSHOOTx: raises 60 to 90
supernewf500: raises 1380 to 1470 and is all-in
Reams3: folds
lorrydix: folds
damarooo: folds
Cashcid Linc: folds
AcidFaLL: folds
rain_2: folds
ROBERTO 211: folds
xCRAPSHOOTx: calls 1045 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [3h 8h 4h]
*** TURN *** [3h 8h 4h] [Ac]
*** RIVER *** [3h 8h 4h Ac] [Qc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
xCRAPSHOOTx: shows [Kd Kc] (a pair of Kings)
supernewf500: shows [Js Ad] (a pair of Aces)
supernewf500 collected 2345 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2345 | Rake 0
Board [3h 8h 4h Ac Qc]
Seat 1: ROBERTO 211 folded before Flop
Seat 2: xCRAPSHOOTx showed [Kd Kc] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 3: supernewf500 showed [Js Ad] and won (2345) with a pair of Aces
Seat 4: Reams3 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: lorrydix folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: damarooo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Cashcid Linc (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: AcidFaLL (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: rain_2 (big blind) folded before Flop

Now how do you win with KK!

I played this hand while reading your post!

I'm not saying it is an exageration in your mind. But remember, I deal in stats and figures all day. I also have coached many a player, top players too, and when analyzing their pt stats found their minds had much more memory of the bad times then the good ones (this is human nature). It matters not if you played this hand right or not. We are discussing whether suckouts always go against you. I SEE THE same thing in the investment world people overstating their returnsthough usally here to the upside recorded stats however often tell a different tale. I suggest you get PT again and use it.Frankly I can't understand why any top player would ever play without pt and pokerace HUD. Much too valuable to be able review yours and your opponent splay plus pokerace letting you see mucked showdowns can't be undervalued in its worth.

Well I guess I will have to get PT again...lol, while I was reading this post, I just lost with KK again to 33 again.

I give up...just in a hand I have AJ and the moron put me all-in, I have AJs he has 88, now for once I hit my pockets, not once but twice...AJT...yes...he turns an 8....if I'm in the lead I lose...if I take the lead I lose, I just can't win under any conditions...the only way is if I buy them.

Rocket, I will get PT again and you will see just what I am talking about.

Ouch, sorry about the beats. It looks like you played the hands fine to me.