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Hello,

My poker game has hit a plateau. I'm a mathematical player that plays tight (I've got a degree in math).

I'm reading Caro's book of tells. I'll probably read it 3 times.

So far, since I play with mostly ametures, I can tell if someone bets small and doesn't have a hand. I can tell sometimes if people have AA. The basics.

I believe poker is more than half tells.

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Try reading Harrington. It will give you some insight into expanding your self proclaimed "tight" play. Lots of discussion around here regarding tight vs. agressive play. Opinions on the subject are like like azzholes...... everyone has one. Play what works for you but give Harrington a read it will give you some insight regarding tells and what others may be thinking depending on their level of play. For me, playing against amatuers is tougher as they will always overvalue their hands. Good Luck.
  
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An important tell I think is the quick bet. Most of the times this is a bluff because he doesn't look at which cards can beat him.
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Strong means weak and weak means strong in a lot of situations. There's no exact science but that's the most universal concept out there. When presented with a decision, decide what the other player really wants you to do. Did they bet 2x the pot because they want you to call? With experienced players probably not.

I'm always most sceptically when I see an experienced player bet something like, $20 into a pot of $100.

One physical tell I've seen playing live that I've found very reliable is "happy feet". When you see a relatively calm player in a hand and he's staring a hand down keeping his "poker face" but his legs are bouncing him out of his chair, he probably has a strong hand. They don't think you can see their feet under the table but you can see the shirt moving and things like that.

Caro doesn't talk about that one so not a lot of people are aware of it. Of course playing online they could be doing back flips and you'd never know. I'd suggest sticking to betting patterns when playing online.
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Strong means weak and weak means strong in a lot of situations. There's no exact science but that's the most universal concept out there. When presented with a decision, decide what the other player really wants you to do. Did they bet 2x the pot because they want you to call? With experienced players probably not.

I'm always most sceptically when I see an experienced player bet something like, $20 into a pot of $100.

One physical tell I've seen playing live that I've found very reliable is "happy feet". When you see a relatively calm player in a hand and he's staring a hand down keeping his "poker face" but his legs are bouncing him out of his chair, he probably has a strong hand. They don't think you can see their feet under the table but you can see the shirt moving and things like that.

Caro doesn't talk about that one so not a lot of people are aware of it. Of course playing online they could be doing back flips and you'd never know. I'd suggest sticking to betting patterns when playing online.
This is very true. I was keeping that in mind when playing a live MTT final table. I caught the nuts on the turn. After some thinking I made an oversized bet and was called just for my opponent to see there was nothing that could beat me. After the hand the guy next to me asked why I made such a big bet. I didn't answer him, I just smiled instead. I wanted to look weak or possibly trying to steal the pot. If I bet a pot or half pot it would have given me away. It all depends on what has happened during the game, also. I had been caught trying to steal a pot earlier in the game, so it was quite feasible to believe I was doing the same there.
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