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I just ran each of the 14 hands through the odds calculator, here are the results:

Hand #win %results
1 58.50% win
2 54.82% win
3 39.66% lose
4 32.95% win
5 33.13% win
6 N/A win blinds
7 18.13% tie
8 28.64% lose
9 27.31% lose
10 61.40% win
11 65.10% win
12 N/A win blinds
13 N/A win blinds
14 56.11% win
   
total 43.25% 7 wins, 3 losses, 1 tie, 3 blinds won

You, my friend, have just earned the title of luckbox.
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It was an old theory of Mason Malmuth and David Sklansky to go all-in on every hand...you see there is more to poker then cards and odds...the mind is as much if not more a part of the game than the cards are...one has to be willing to call those all-ins.

How many times have you been at a table where a player goes all-in for a number of hands in a row and that player also has a gigantic bank...now everyone else at the table knows that the player is bluffing but is afraid to call him...even with good cards, because they know that a luck factor is also involved and do not want to get caught in it and get railed...they all wait for someone else to beat him.

It also happened in a WSOP with STU UNGER...everyone knew that he was bluffing...but no one was willing to call him for his 5 all-ins in a row when they all knew that he was bluffing!

I just won a re-buy tournament...when I had over 250,000 chips, the player next closest to me had 98,000 chips...I did not want to get in a hand, because they were all going all-in and the luck factor was on my mind, so I was very selective to position and pre-play, not to mention the in pot players banks as well as those in front of me, as to whether I played the hand at all!

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The fact is, gimme got his money in while behind in 6 of his 14 hands (and there are 3 hands where we don't know whether he was ahead or not). In the 5 hands where he got his money in ahead, he won - every single one of them. Odds dictate he should have only won 3 of those. Of the hands where he got his money in behind, he won two times, and tied once - on average, he will win only 1.7 times out of 6. There were only 3 cases where gimme shoved and no one called, and two of them were heads up.

Gimme relied on luck, and nothing more, to win this SnG. Anyone who tries to deny that is a moron.
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OK mars...and what was gimme trying to prove...he was trying to prove the luck factor...because he just lost over $7,000 at one seating.

Yes mars and the luck factor works in more than one way...you have the luck of the cards and you have opponents that are afraid of the luck of the cards....even when they have good cards.

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OK mars...and what was gimme trying to prove...he was trying to prove the luck factor...because he just lost over $7,000 at one seating.

Yes mars and the luck factor works in more than one way...you have the luck of the cards and you have opponents that are afraid of the luck of the cards....even when they have good cards.
Seems to me that the opponents he was facing were not in any way afraid of the luck of the cards, they were calling him with T5s, T3o, J9s, T2s, T7o, A9s, K5o, QJo, A5s, K3s, AJo, AQo, Q5o, QJo, and A6o.

Of those hands that called gimme, only AQ can be considered even close to a premium, and guess what: HE TRIPLED UP TO 4500, AT 10/20 BLINDS, THAT HAND!!

If anything, this hand history has shown that you can't use advanced poker theory at the lower levels, as they will call you with anything - so all of your talk about raising with junk hands, playing the player, not your cards - gimme has just shown that your theory does not apply!
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LOL...I am convinced that you and Fink are from another planet. You both are totally against what all good poker pro's say...the two of you are just in love with goofy glasses Raymer and must bow to him daily, but I doubt if he even agrees with the Finkmars methodology!
  
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If you go all in every hand, it is the same as playing a slot machine. Where is the skill, pride, or basic knowledge of the game? If an all in fest is all you are after, and let the luck fall where it may, poker should not be your game of choice. Go buy a pack of scratch tickets.
  
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Alright Crapshoot, how about this:

The two of us play a best-of-5 heads up series. $5 buy in. You MUST push all in every hand, whereas I can pick and choose when I want to push.

If you win the series, I'll shut up. If I win, you shut up.
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LOL...Were the phuck are you guy's coming from...when in the phuck did I say anything about and promoting all-in play as the way to play poker...I am against all-in play except under certain circumstances...I am not an all-in player...do you understand that!!!
  
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LOL...I am convinced that you and Fink are from another planet. You both are totally against what all good poker pro's say...the two of you are just in love with goofy glasses Raymer and must bow to him daily, but I doubt if he even agrees with the Finkmars methodology!
Not a Raymer fan, far as I can remember I give him no thought what-so-ever except when I see someone with a grudge (who knows better) with multiple posts on how bad of a poker player the guy is

I have no idea what you guys are even trying to prove in this thread... that you can win a 10-man sng by going all in every hand? Ummm... is there anyone out there who thinks it's impossible? Hope you didn't spend too much time on the experiment...
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It was an old theory of Mason Malmuth and David Sklansky to go all-in on every hand...you see there is more to poker then cards and odds...the mind is as much if not more a part of the game than the cards are...one has to be willing to call those all-ins.
Was the theory going all in every hand of the tourny or simply in specific situations? If it was every hand then I'm willing to bet they don't use it anymore... did they really have to experiment long to figure out people would fold to an all in with 10 7?
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How many times have you been at a table where a player goes all-in for a number of hands in a row and that player also has a gigantic bank...now everyone else at the table knows that the player is bluffing but is afraid to call him...even with good cards, because they know that a luck factor is also involved and do not want to get caught in it and get railed...they all wait for someone else to beat him.
And how many times have you seen a bigstack hit the rail in a 5-hand span by playing this way and not stopping once he is called on it and beaten?
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It also happened in a WSOP with STU UNGER...everyone knew that he was bluffing...but no one was willing to call him for his 5 all-ins in a row when they all knew that he was bluffing!
Oh my God!!! Stu unger once won 5 HANDS IN A ROW because people folded to his all ins???
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I just won a re-buy tournament...when I had over 250,000 chips, the player next closest to me had 98,000 chips...I did not want to get in a hand, because they were all going all-in and the luck factor was on my mind, so I was very selective to position and pre-play, not to mention the in pot players banks as well as those in front of me, as to whether I played the hand at all!
You were big stacked but didn't get involved in pots yet most of your recent posts are based on playing any 2 cards like you have AA... busting people with your garbage cards because your big hands get cracked anyways and whatnot. So you ended up winning a tournament by going AGAINST all the things you've been preaching lately?
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LOL...Were the phuck are you guy's coming from...when in the phuck did I say anything about and promoting all-in play as the way to play poker...I am against all-in play except under certain circumstances...I am not an all-in player...do you understand that!!!
How would we understand that when you try to get your points across using the examples I just quoted above?
  
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