Rigged or Not?

I hope this will settle the topic once and for all and maybe make someone think before typing "This site is rigged". I found this nice little article for your enjoyment:

Are Online Poker Sites Rigged?
Online poker sites have come under suspicion of being rigged almost since the start of online poker. There have always been rumours flying around the internet that the tables were fixed in some way. People who played on the poker sites online (usually the ones who lost of course) moaned that there was a much higher chance of suffering a "bad beat" online than there was in a real poker game.

Well the truth is they are right on one count but wrong on the other.

Firstly, there is no way that the major online poker rooms are rigged. These are multi-million dollar a year industries that do just fine the way they are, there is absolutely no need for them to be fixed or rigged in any way. Can you imagine what it would do for the business if it was to emerge that one of the main poker sites was fixed? Their customers would disappear like snow off a roof, and there is nothing surer than the fact that if one of the sites was rigged, the information would find it's way out eventually. If there is anything dubious going on it would have been done by a human being and they tend not to be able to keep secrets forever!

Secondly, yes it is true - there is more chance that you'll get a bad beat in an online poker game than in a regular table game at home or in a casino. The reason for this however is not that there are "bent" tables, the reason lies with the players themselves. The online poker player is a different breed from his real table counterpart and bets in a different way.

There are a few possible reasons for this, but whether it is because the game doesn't seem as real because there's nothing that's actually tangible, or maybe it's just that the standard of play is much lower online, the fact remains that people playing online tend to bet more and on worse hands than those offline. People will play almost any hand online and often the whole game is just one of bluff and bigger bluff. Almost everybody - especially on the lower money tables - wants to be involved in every hand. So the fact that more people are in to see the flop means that there's much more chance of you picking up a "bad beat".

That 2 7 which most people would throw away as if it was burning their hands becomes a whole lot more attractive if the flop is 7 7 2!

So the bottom line is that the online poker sites are not fixed or rigged in any way, it's just the players that can be a bit unpredictable!

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Don't think you can make me look like a fool because I have that part under control.

Like they've left in droves from Absolute????????

What?

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The value of a man or woman resides in what he or she gives, not in what they are capable of receiving

Don't think you can make me look like a fool because I have that part under control.

Here read this and tell me if there leaving like snow off the roof .....


The Absolute Poker Scandal

There are 2 obvious differences between your article and the one that I posted. The one about Absolute states that someone hacked the system. Was it actually the whole company? Not from what I read on it. Did the company itself deceive the players by having special accounts I don't believe so. If they did then they are the fools. It does not mean that all online poker is rigged. It just means that Absolute is just a bad apple. The article I posted tells that is does not happen. I still stand with that article. Just because someone in a company got greedy does not mean that the whole company was in on it. Why would a site such as Absolute need to cheat out the players? Every company no matter what it is has thieves and that is simply what happened here. Now did Absolute do anything wrong? Well I say not intentionally. They should have closed those test accounts way back when.

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The value of a man or woman resides in what he or she gives, not in what they are capable of receiving

Don't think you can make me look like a fool because I have that part under control.

...or did they have a fall guy for absolute?

Conspiracy theory line forms here

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I don’t ever thought like this that any of the online sites are rigged.To anybody who says that online poker is rigged, or that it's full of cheaters, I say this... if it is, it's not rigged very well, and they aren't cheating very well.

i think most of the discrepancy comes from the fact that the hands/hr is way higher. If you play one table, you could be playing 2x as many hands per hour as a B&M player. If you play 3 or 4... well, every hour gets you a full day of B&M play.

Additionally, there's the fact that it's a lot easier to play a lot of online than it is to play a lot of B&M. Most of us don't have casinos in our living rooms, but we do have laptops.

Edit: Do not post links to rival forums or businesses on this site. This is your only warning.

I've been playing mostly live games lately. That's why I've been somewhat MIA.

That being said, I've seen the same stuff that I've seen online. Reckless play, tons of draws, bad beats... In the last 2 weeks I've seen AA vs KK 4 times. BTW, I folded the KK preflop one of those. How many times have you seen that happen online and go, "there's no way!"?

Now I think it's obvious that the sites are not rigged but I think you have your head in the sand if you think that other sites haven't been or won't be hacked just like we've seen at Absolute.

That part of the gamble that we all take by playing online.

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I have noticed this myself.....I havent played there in months.But its crazy how fast people ran from there....it just amazes me that people are still there at all.