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Old 09-01-2006, 02:34 AM
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Ok, so Zom and I were discussing today about how much to play early in a SNG. I believe you can pretty much sit out until the table is down to 4 or 5 players and still be competitive.

I was in one yesterday where I sat out of the first 36 hands. I went back to see what kind of hands I had missed out on. In 36 hands I had 2 pairs. The first time I had QQ. Good thing I didn't play that one -- I would have lost to pocket aces! In the second incident where I had a pocket pair I had 99. That would have lost to JJ. Finally in hand 37, we're down to 4 players and I get JJ in the SB. UTG folds, button smooth calls, and I raise 4x. BB folds and button calls. Flop is Qxx, I bet a feeler bet, he raises all in, and I go into the tank...no way he's got a queen, right? WRONG!!! He had QKo and hit. I play one doggone hand, and bubble out. ARGH!!!!

So....tonight I decide to play a SNG. I'm planning on just sitting out for awhile, and here is the first hand:


Full Tilt Poker Game #955173058: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (6440482), Table 1 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:13:00 ET - 2006/08/31
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to wbtczn [Ah Ad]
TBROWN18 calls 30
arevs calls 30
pokernomics folds
markymert: gl all. lets have some fun!
wbtczn raises to 130
rivermagic3013 folds
raboo2u folds
Angus_rat folds
dcoyrat folds
markymert folds
TBROWN18 calls 100
arevs folds
*** FLOP *** [4d 3s Jd]
TBROWN18 bets 210
wbtczn raises to 600
TBROWN18 raises to 990
wbtczn raises to 1,370, and is all in
TBROWN18 calls 380, and is all in
wbtczn shows [Ah Ad]
TBROWN18 shows [Ac Jc]
*** TURN *** [4d 3s Jd] [5h]
*** RIVER *** [4d 3s Jd 5h] [3d]
wbtczn shows two pair, Aces and Threes
TBROWN18 shows two pair, Jacks and Threes
wbtczn wins the pot (3,075) with two pair, Aces and Threes
TBROWN18 stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3,075 | Rake 0
Board: [4d 3s Jd 5h 3d]
Seat 1: dcoyrat (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: markymert (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: TBROWN18 showed [Ac Jc] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Threes
Seat 4: arevs folded before the Flop
Seat 5: pokernomics didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: wbtczn showed [Ah Ad] and won (3,075) with two pair, Aces and Threes
Seat 7: rivermagic3013 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: raboo2u didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: Angus_rat (button) didn't bet (folded)

And then hand 14:

Full Tilt Poker Game #955173058: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (6440482), Table 1 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:13:00 ET - 2006/08/31
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to wbtczn [Ah Ad]
TBROWN18 calls 30
arevs calls 30
pokernomics folds
markymert: gl all. lets have some fun!
wbtczn raises to 130
rivermagic3013 folds
raboo2u folds
Angus_rat folds
dcoyrat folds
markymert folds
TBROWN18 calls 100
arevs folds
*** FLOP *** [4d 3s Jd]
TBROWN18 bets 210
wbtczn raises to 600
TBROWN18 raises to 990
wbtczn raises to 1,370, and is all in
TBROWN18 calls 380, and is all in
wbtczn shows [Ah Ad]
TBROWN18 shows [Ac Jc]
*** TURN *** [4d 3s Jd] [5h]
*** RIVER *** [4d 3s Jd 5h] [3d]
wbtczn shows two pair, Aces and Threes
TBROWN18 shows two pair, Jacks and Threes
wbtczn wins the pot (3,075) with two pair, Aces and Threes
TBROWN18 stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3,075 | Rake 0
Board: [4d 3s Jd 5h 3d]
Seat 1: dcoyrat (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: markymert (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: TBROWN18 showed [Ac Jc] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Threes
Seat 4: arevs folded before the Flop
Seat 5: pokernomics didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: wbtczn showed [Ah Ad] and won (3,075) with two pair, Aces and Threes
Seat 7: rivermagic3013 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: raboo2u didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: Angus_rat (button) didn't bet (folded)

Gee...so much for my plans.
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Whoops! Good catch, Sonny. Just checking to see if anyone really looks at my posts!

Here's the second hand:


Full Tilt Poker Game #955210390: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (6440482), Table 1 - 20/40 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:24:05 ET - 2006/08/31
Seat 1: dcoyrat (1,655)
Seat 2: markymert (860)
Seat 4: arevs (1,820)
Seat 5: pokernomics (1,835)
Seat 6: wbtczn (2,765)
Seat 7: rivermagic3013 (1,515)
Seat 8: raboo2u (1,170)
Seat 9: Angus_rat (1,880)
rivermagic3013 posts the small blind of 20
raboo2u posts the big blind of 40
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to wbtczn [Ad Kc]
Angus_rat folds
dcoyrat folds
markymert folds
arevs folds
pokernomics raises to 120
wbtczn raises to 400
rivermagic3013 folds
raboo2u folds
pokernomics has 15 seconds left to act
pokernomics raises to 920
wbtczn calls 520
*** FLOP *** [Qs 6s Ac]
pokernomics has 15 seconds left to act
pokernomics bets 915, and is all in
wbtczn calls 915
pokernomics shows [Kd Ks]
wbtczn shows [Ad Kc]
*** TURN *** [Qs 6s Ac] [4s]
*** RIVER *** [Qs 6s Ac 4s] [6h]
pokernomics shows two pair, Kings and Sixes
wbtczn shows two pair, Aces and Sixes
wbtczn wins the pot (3,730) with two pair, Aces and Sixes
pokernomics stands up
The blinds are now 25/50
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3,730 | Rake 0
Board: [Qs 6s Ac 4s 6h]
Seat 1: dcoyrat didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: markymert didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: arevs didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: pokernomics showed [Kd Ks] and lost with two pair, Kings and Sixes
Seat 6: wbtczn (button) showed [Ad Kc] and won (3,730) with two pair, Aces and Sixes
Seat 7: rivermagic3013 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: raboo2u (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: Angus_rat didn't bet (folded)

I ended up second. I got more pairs and strong aces in this game than in the last 20 I've played!
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We should all learn from the Striped One.
If you're going to sit out early, begin play in the 38th hand.
If you want to play right away, play the first 14 hands and then sit out the next 38. You're a lock.
  
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We should all learn from the Striped One.
If you're going to sit out early, begin play in the 38th hand.
If you want to play right away, play the first 14 hands and then sit out the next 38. You're a lock.
We can also learn from Boiler.....

Don't make a post for 38 days, and thrash one of your bro's 'til he cries like a baby.

Ouch.

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PS: On the other hand, it was Stripes, so what the heck!!!
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We can also learn from Boiler.....

Don't make a post for 38 days, and thrash one of your bro's 'til he cries like a baby.

Ouch.

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PS: On the other hand, it was Stripes, so what the heck!!!
Can you all feel the love? Brag about a group, list them in your signature, and they flame you.

By the way Zom, I was +$ in the home game last night...
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Call mea moron, I suspect several of you do, but I always play the whole way through. Same in MTT. Most of the time this is the same as sitting out early. I don't know what everybody else is playing, but if everyone got my sort of cards every hand would be a BB walkover.

The serious point though is what we've said before elsewhere, poker is a streaky game, sit out early and you could have missed your streak, so just play. In any case, if they are a table of pussies you can win with crap just by betting from time to time, so why waste chances for profit?
  
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