wsop capped at 2000 entries

Where does it say that whoever wins will be the best player in the world (now or in the past). This is a tournament not a hall of fame game. Whoever plays the best at the time of the tournament time will win.

Plus I'd like to see you get first in a major tournament then you can call people world class players and non world class players. Before then don't even try.

Btw check the results for the Bay 101 tournament. Guess who got second. That same player is ranked 38th this year. You can spend some time browsing the list behind him and find hall of famers.

Also, about the bad baseball analogy I made(I know it is). Those 8 cities would notice. The good teams will notice because they will no longer have easy wins.

I knew I was going to get a "look at moneymaker now" reply. Hes plyed well, I give him credit, obviously he is not the clown which most players thought him to be. What the hell is the point of a "World Series" if its just any old winner? It doesn't have to be a hall of fame game if the entry money is increased, it would be though because only top tier player (and a few sattelite winnners) would be able to enter... You're making no goddamn sense, why not just call it the Binions Tournament... You're probably one of those clowns who has the illusion that theyre going to win it next year so Im ruining your illsuion that youd be a poker god or something... Get real, and I never even claimed I was remotely good at poker, so it doesn't matter if win a tournament and criticize players... There are thousands of sports columnists that can't hit a homerun or throw a football- oh yeah its called an opinion.

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why call when you can raise?

And whoever plays the best will win?

Hmmm... Lets draw up a hand...
You get dealt AA in position with another player in the pot. The board comes overcards and you play extremely well, tricking the player into going all in with 8 8 (with overcards on the board, are you serious?)

But he obviously outplayed you right? He knew his 2 outer would hit... Thats what I don't want to see, an amazing World Class player like Brenes get sucked out by some internet settelite winner. Its a joke but what you want so hey-- go clowns!

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why call when you can raise?

"What the hell is the point of a "World Series" if its just any old winner?"

So we can see who will win. Why else do we watch games/sports?

"You're probably one of those clowns who has the illusion that theyre going to win it next year so Im ruining your illsuion that youd be a poker god or something..."

When did I say that? Oh yah, I didn't.

"oh yeah its called an opinion."

You can't use opinion in an argument unless your in the first grade.

"Its a joke but what you want so hey-- go clowns!"

No it's called poker you moron.


I'll now wait for your next idiotic reply



P.S. Use spell check or learn how to spell.

"So we can see who will win. Why else do we watch games/sports?"

I don't want to watch you play in the super bowl, I don't want to watch my neighbor play championship chess, and I don't want shitty players in World Calss tournaments. Why do I want some lucky bastard going all in and sucking out the best pros? I like watching hands played well... Not I'm all in and my eyes are closed" Why don't you just take a shit on the table while youre at it?


"You can't use opinion in an argument unless your in the first grade"

This was in a reference to sportswriters, they write opinions... I am allowed an opinion on how good a poker players is regardless of how good I am at the game... Don't try to logically argue a point and then ignore the context in which it is placed.


"No it's called poker you moron."
-I don't like watching suckouts and two outers take out good players, but if you do, good for you... You probably think celebrity poker and Vince Van Patten are the best things to happen to poker since the invention of the chip. And if you want to name call then i think youre a twat.


"P.S. Use spell check or learn how to spell."

I dont really care, I got my point across.

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why call when you can raise?

"I don't want to watch you play in the super bowl, I don't want to watch my neighbor play championship chess, and I don't want shitty players in World Calss tournaments."

Ever see the bottom seed in the playoffs make the world series/superbowl/stanley cup.. etc Chess is a game of all skill an no luck. Poker has luck involved along with the skill.

"This was in a reference to sportswriters, they write opinions... I am allowed an opinion on how good a poker players is regardless of how good I am at the game... Don't try to logically argue a point and then ignore the context in which it is placed."

Sportswriters write their OPINIONS to express THEIR views. If anyone was to debate them they would pull out a nice statbook.

"I don't like watching suckouts and two outers take out good players, but if you do, good for you... You probably think celebrity poker and Vince Van Patten are the best things to happen to poker since the invention of the chip."

Once again I never said any of the things you said I did. Why can't you tell me any facts for your view? There are none that's why. You are just trying to get your point across threw slander of your debater.

"And if you want to name call then i think youre a twat."

Truth always hurts. Ice helps the pain.

"I dont really care, I got my point across."

The only point you got across was that you are incredibly dumb.


Moderaters you might as well close this because this will go back and forth and is turning off topic. I am done trampling over your petty views and will wait for a intelligent response from somebody else if this thread is not closed.

By the way, what "shitty" players won the series in the past couple years?

Mr. Biggums

I was the one who orignally posted that the WSOP No-Limit tourny should be raised to $50,000. I have just read your post about it being a bad idea, then the following correspondence between you and Pfunk and would like to defend my point of view.

Your original statement was this:

"If they raised it to 50 grand it would be very bad for the game of poker. One of the reasons so many people play is because they can play with the professionals for a relatively cheap price(compared to the money you can win). By adding more people you add more fish and more money in the prize pool. I don't think the pros mind all the people because they usually outlast them anyways."

I have no problem with amateurs or some unknown winning the event. More power to MoneyMaker who beat out over 800 other people to win the title. That takes more than luck. I think it should be raised for other reasons.

1. Because of the number of players who want to play in it. Once it was found out that the event has to be capped at a certain number of people, you know you have to raise the price. Supply and demand. Just like where I live in San Diego- If all the nice houses were 200,000, the demand would be so great that people who wanted to get one would not be able to due to there not being enough supply. Same as the WSOP- it has gained so much popularity of the last few years with it being televised and the amount of people playing poker that now people who want to play may not be able to get in due to it being capped.

2. Since this is the most popular poker event, in which it crowns the best poker player in the world, whether you think it be officially or unofficially, it should be the most expensive to play in. This is just more of a logical argument I am making, and really has no supporting evidence.

3. Your main point was that it would be very bad for the game of poker. Personally I think it would be great for the game of poker. It would make for a more compelling series to watch on TV, and would just be overall more high stakes. The satelittes would be bigger and more competitive, and the event would get a lot more attention then it has already. Plus I still think it would get around 400-500 direct buy ins, so the prize pool shouldn't be diminished too much.

I'd like to hear what you think about my views.

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