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05-05-2008, 03:39 PM
| | | | I think this may be a very ordinary group of horses this year which may make Big Brown look a lot better than he is from a historical perspective. Not saying he isn't very good, time will tell, but he may be running against double A competition. | |
05-06-2008, 02:27 AM
| | | | Ho ho, figured that wind up would get a few bites.
One serious point was made there though that deserves comment. Your horses are bred for a specific purpose, to be specialists on flat, tight circuits. Ours are are bred to perform on a wide variety of tracks (which are not necessarilly circuits!). That is the reason very few of our horses contest your triple crown races and those that do don't do very well. BUT. Your horses hardly ever take part in our triple crown races for exactly the same reason. The few that do get stuffed out of sight because they are not bred for it. It works both ways.
But explain this though, and I'm not doing a wind up now. We have a channel on cable that shows US racing. Guys? How can you stand the boredom of every track being a tight oval which is always run the same way round? Where's your sense of adventure? Variety is the spice of life etc.
Apart from which, yer basic original horse comes from open grasslands where it runs left and right, up and down, so why do you not want to test the whole of that?
I mean, yes we have horses that run better one way round or the other, some that prefer flat, some prefer undulating and so on and on. But the very best cope with it all. They have to in order to be regarded as the best. I just don't get why anyone would not want to fully test a horse before they make claims about it.
And no, I don't regard a poker player who is only good at one variety as a great poker player. I regard them as great in that version and I will never argue they are not great in that version, just as I would never argue that Secratariat was not great at what he did. You can't drop the qualifying phrase that specifies what they are good at whilst ever that is only one narrow thing. For example, horses, wherever they race, however they are bred, can be great sprinters, great middle distance or great stayers, very few have ever been great in two of those let alone all three. To simply call them great without some qualifying phrase to indicate what they were great at is plainly wrong. Our Triple Crown and your Triple Crown only identify middle distance horses so the winners should be called great middle distance horses, not great horses, as well as other labels that really ought to be applied. We all just say "great" in every day speech, it is more convenient, but we should not lose sight of the fact that that is actually shorthand and not real greatness in any wider sense.
Does that mean I think the World Champion should be the winner of the WSOP 50K HORSE event? Yes. That person has proved a lot more about their overall poker abilities. | |
05-06-2008, 10:10 PM
| | | | Most all of ur eruopean horses are at best show horses, most are bred for polo and equestrian events. Now any time one of the owners thinks he may have a euro horse that is good enough, they will absolutely 1000% do anything they can do to get him in one of our big races. Our triple crown races and breeders cup events are hands down the biggest and richest races in the world and everybody knows this. Now i do remember one of those equestrian horses being entered into last yrs. breeders cup. I put him in my pick 4, because his stats looked decent, the damn horse turned the wrong way outta the first turn and ran off the track.(lol), i have never seen anything like it in my life., U.S. horses and races are superior, that is the bottom line , end of story. I will never bet another european horse, ever, unless im betting on an equestrian event and those are not too big here in the U.S.. We prefer champion racing and prefer to run our horses around a track and not to showpony some polo player around so he can hit a ball with a mallet or jump over a wooden fence while doing tricks.
Last edited by cat5cane : 05-06-2008 at 10:15 PM.
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05-06-2008, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by cat5cane Most all of ur eruopean horses are at best show horses, most are bred for polo and equestrian events. . | That is just plain stupid and unworthy. Your horses are just broken down crocks that can only race by being high on drugs that are banned in any other country. They are on drugs because you are a load of callous bastards who care nothing about the horse only about money. So kill the crap superioty, it is based on a fraudulent representation of what is good. Your horses can't beat ours over here because we care about horses and don't subject them to such abuse, take your horses off dope and they are reavealed for what they are, broken down crocks. And I'm sorry if that sounds harsh but I am just not in the mood such crap tonight. I will not be continuing here for a while because a friend of my youngest son has just killed herself, she was just 18. I have more important isues to deal with. | |
05-07-2008, 01:35 AM
| | | | racingdog u are right about this drug situation. How are these horses supposed to know when to pull up if something is wrong, when they are drugged to the hilt most of the time. Answer they don't, they keep on running until there bones crack, and most end up with injuries that cost them their life. Lasix meds. are out of control and regulations need to be put into place to at least limit the amount of times a horse can be drugged like this for future races. | |
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