If this isn't a bad beat.. I don't know one.

PokerStars Game #2197230879: Tournament #10554564, Omaha Hi/Lo Limit - Level IV (100/200) - 2005/07/27 - 01:03:45 (ET)
Table '10554564 1' Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: Abshar (732 in chips)
Seat 3: billegoat (2450 in chips)
Seat 4: bungalow59 (2060 in chips)
Seat 5: wongum (1445 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 6: CDhas5 (1455 in chips)
Seat 7: DAVID971 (2133 in chips)
Seat 8: Barilovits (2195 in chips)
Seat 9: TheRiha (1030 in chips)
billegoat: posts small blind 50
bungalow59: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to TheRiha [Td Jh Js 2s]
wongum: folds
CDhas5: calls 100
DAVID971: raises 100 to 200
Barilovits: calls 200
TheRiha: calls 200
Abshar: folds
billegoat: folds
bungalow59: calls 100
CDhas5: calls 100
*** FLOP *** [9d Qh Ks]
bungalow59: bets 100
CDhas5: calls 100
DAVID971: raises 100 to 200
Barilovits: folds
TheRiha: raises 100 to 300
bungalow59: calls 200
CDhas5: calls 200
DAVID971: raises 100 to 400
Betting is capped
TheRiha: calls 100
bungalow59: calls 100
CDhas5: calls 100
*** TURN *** [9d Qh Ks] [2d]
bungalow59: checks
CDhas5: checks
DAVID971: bets 200
TheRiha: raises 200 to 400
bungalow59: calls 400
CDhas5: calls 400
DAVID971: calls 200
*** RIVER *** [9d Qh Ks 2d] [Qc]
bungalow59: bets 200
CDhas5: raises 200 to 400
DAVID971: calls 400
TheRiha: calls 30 and is all-in
bungalow59: raises 200 to 600
CDhas5: calls 55 and is all-in
DAVID971: calls 200
*** SHOW DOWN ***
bungalow59: shows [Kh 4c Kc 5c] (HI: a full house, Kings full of Queens)
DAVID971: mucks hand
bungalow59 collected 290 from side pot-2
CDhas5: shows [2h 4h Qs Tc] (HI: a full house, Queens full of Deuces)
bungalow59 collected 1275 from side pot-1
CDhas5 said, "gh"
TheRiha: shows [Td Jh Js 2s] (HI: a straight, Nine to King)
bungalow59 collected 4370 from main pot
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5935 Main pot 4370. Side pot-1 1275. Side pot-2 290. | Rake 0
Board [9d Qh Ks 2d Qc]
Seat 2: Abshar (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: billegoat (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: bungalow59 (big blind) showed [Kh 4c Kc 5c] and won (5935) with HI: a full house, Kings full of Queens
Seat 5: wongum folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: CDhas5 showed [2h 4h Qs Tc] and lost with HI: a full house, Queens full of Deuces
Seat 7: DAVID971 mucked [Ah Ac Jc 3c]
Seat 8: Barilovits folded on the Flop
Seat 9: TheRiha showed [Td Jh Js 2s] and lost with HI: a straight, Nine to King

Yes, that sucks... thats why I dont play omaha, flop the nuts but if the board pairs you just got rocked I saw a hand today, didn't take down the hand history but I did get a screen capture of it (I'll sift through the 10,000 hands I've captured and see if I can find it )

I wasn't involved in the hand, was a $10 MTT very early and the flop came

Three people all in after the flop
Player one showed
Player two showed
Player three showed
Turn came

River came


LOL, I HAVE to find that capture and post it

To be honest, it's hard to really pin a bad beat on a hand. So many people chase, there are always so many options in a hand and if one particular card or another comes, the whole hand is changed, that its pretty hard to say "man that really was a bad beat." On almost every hand in Omaha, you could say someone had a bad beat. It really does suck and that's why I don't play much omaha, but I think it is much easier to apply the term "bad beat" to a holdem hand instead of a omaha hand. Now, don't get me wrong, there are definitely bad beats in omaha as in holdem, but this I would say is a tough loss instead of bad beat. "Tough loss" is a term I am now using on hands that are like the term says, tough losses. I now apply this to hands where people chase a draw and hit on the river.

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Lol, well... if you could show me what draw he was chasing, I will change my mind. Lol

I'm not saying he was chasing a draw, but come on, there were 3 other people in the hand to showdown. In omaha, with that many people in the hand, it is hard to think that a straight will end up winning. You can't blame the bungalow guy with a set of kings for staying in the hand. He did get lucky to beat your straight, which was a good hand, but since there are so many possibilities in omaha, if there is a pair on the board, someone might very well have a boat. If there are 3 to a flush, someone probably has the flush. You might consider the guy with KK to be chasing his full house. Why can't that be a draw? Like I said, its a tough loss when you flop the nuts straight, but straights are beaten all the time in omaha.

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I think that one of the others that was in it was on J10 as well, hit the nuts. I dunno, I guess I'm overrating it, but oh well. I understand what you're saying by-all means.

FinK...you had an upper case C that is why your card didn't show.

I think that I would quite the game if I were player two and player three had to take down a humungous pot.

Even worse. It was Omaha Hi/Lo which is even crazier.

You need dynomite to get people to fold in Omaha H/L because almost anything you get is a potential winner.

At least that is the most people see things.

Truth is there are tons of bad hands. Sadly most Omaha players would know a bad hand if it came up and pit them.

You could could make a pot sized bet give no 4 card draw any reason at all to stay in. Make it expensive as heck. It wouldn't matter that would stay.

Sadly a person with only that would need runner runner to beat your hand would probably stay too.

Omaha. What can you say. It is just a crazy game.

Well, it was limit also, which makes it extremely hard to get people to fold their draws. I just checked Bet/Raise Any and hoped to get people to fold. Needless to say, it didn't work.