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Old 06-16-2005, 12:27 AM
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) converter

CO (t2540)
Hero (t1220)
SB (t3230)
BB (t250)
UTG (t1180)
UTG+1 (t850)
MP1 (t1430)
MP2 (t960)
MP3 (t1840)

Preflop: Hero is Button with , .
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t30, MP1 calls t30, 1 fold, MP3 calls t30, 1 fold, Hero calls t30, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t180) , , (6 players)
SB checks, BB bets t30, UTG+1 calls t30, MP1 folds, MP3 folds, Hero calls t30, SB folds.

Should I call this or just fold it. It was a mininum bet and I have a backdoor flushdraw AND a backdoor straight draw. I know the odds for hitting are long, but what about when you have both going and it's a mininum bet, what then? Also this was a $5 SNG. Does it make a difference whether I am playing a SNG or a .50/$1 limit cash game. All input is appreciated.














Final Pot: t710


I ended up with three tens as the short stack was trying to bluff, but I know I can win and still play it wrong. ops

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You fold that. Save your chips for another hand. That isn't that good at all, and like you said, you have horrible odds of hitting draws. If you begin chasing backdoor draws, you will get hurt. Maybe if you hit a pair on the flop, with the backdoors, give a call, but with absolutely nothing (jack high) just throw it in.
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Yep, in no limit, probably would fold. Limit, would definately call and see if you can catch.
  
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Yep, in no limit, probably would fold. Limit, would definately call and see if you can catch.
Actually I would say just the opposite. The odds of making anything good out of this hand are very very bad, so you would need very high implied odds to justify calling, since you're pot odds are atrocious. Now in no-limit if you do manage to hit your miracle hand, if you think you'll be able to take your opponents whole stack, then it may be worth it. However in limit, the most it can cost your opponent is one extra bet, so the implied odds are horrible. In limit ALWAYS fold this hand, in no limit you should probably fold too, although there is maybe a slim case for calling.
  
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With the 2 diamonmds and the Q a fold is probably right.....but it was a minimum bet so sometimes I might peek in the right situation or mood.
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