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Old 06-27-2008, 03:16 AM
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He makes a min raise, which from my experience of these games is either very weak like a rag ace or very strong (AA-QQ). after his re-raise of my re-raise it had to be the later (IMO)....what do you guys think? good or bad fold?

p.s. No reads - was 25 tabling at time with poker tracker off


PokerStars Game #18406664390: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/06/26 - 22:01:52 (ET)
Table 'Hamal II' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Bamboleo99 ($36.60 in chips)
Seat 2: amassouras ($32.95 in chips)
Seat 3: Grator ($11.85 in chips)
Seat 4: GodChaser2 ($15.45 in chips)
Seat 5: VaughnFRG ($21.75 in chips)
Seat 7: JayC170 ($54.35 in chips)
Seat 8: clicker 335 ($4.75 in chips)
Seat 9: Wild4Holdem ($13.75 in chips)
JayC170: posts small blind $0.10
clicker 335: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to JayC170 [Qc Qs]
Wild4Holdem: folds
Bamboleo99: folds
amassouras: folds
Virmos has returned
Grator: raises $0.25 to $0.50
GodChaser2: folds
VaughnFRG: folds
JayC170: raises $1 to $1.50
clicker 335: folds
Grator: raises $3 to $4.50
JayC170: folds
Uncalled bet ($3) returned to Grator
Grator collected $3.25 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $3.25 | Rake $0
Seat 1: Bamboleo99 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: amassouras folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Grator collected ($3.25)
Seat 4: GodChaser2 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: VaughnFRG (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: JayC170 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: clicker 335 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: Wild4Holdem folded before Flop (didn't bet)
  
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i would at least call, their are only 2 hands that have you dominated and if an A or K comes on the flop you can easily get out but i really dont like folding their....
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4-betting is a sign of a monster, and if villain doesn't hold a monster...oh well, it's only a small mistake to fold.
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i would at least call, their are only 2 hands that have you dominated and if an A or K comes on the flop you can easily get out but i really dont like folding their....
Then what do i do when flop comes rags and villain bets 2/3rds
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raising commits me yet i have to do it in that scenario...I see your point but I cant see a hand im beating here
  
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Then what do i do when flop comes rags and villain bets 2/3rds
of the pot???

raising commits me yet i have to do it in that scenario...I see your point but I cant see a hand im beating here
You could actualy beat a handful of hands (JJ AK etc) and what if Q comes on flop all I'm saying is it doesnt hurt to see the flop but having no read on this guy and multitabling doesnt really help you out with your decision in this spot so I can also see why you could fold it but Im just saying I Would at least call...
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you were 25 tabling??? holy sheet!! I can barely watch 2!!!
  
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thas an easy call, yeah a reraise is a commited call, Tuff situation but easy call wp....
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Yea you make a good argument for calling and i agree with you to an extent. Tbh i think you can rule JJ out, but yes AK is a possibility. I think both plays can work, but if he did have AA or KK which was a distinct possibility, there are alot of flops that would have bust me...
  
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I cant see a hand im beating here
It's .10/.25 and you have no reads... I can see a large number of hands that you are beating here.
  
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