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Your minimum requirements for making a raise (adapted from HOHII) Hand Histories
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05-15-2008, 06:37 AM
| | | |  Your minimum requirements for making a raise (adapted from HOHII)
You: $48,000
Button: $34,000
SB: $20,000
BB: $110,000
Blinds: $2000/$4000
Antes: $200
Pot:$6,800
MTT Final Table.
You have been active recently, winning several hands without showing. Your Hand:  
From HOHII, Arguments against raising..
1. You have a weak Ace.
2. You have been active lately, as far as opponents know, you may have
been pushing the table around with nothing.
3. There's a very big stack in the BB. He's the player you least want to get
involved with.
Harrington's preference is a fold (although he states he can't really fault
the raise)
Previous hands and your reads of opponents may well come into
play in a real situation but in theory what's the minimum kicker for your Ax that you would feel comfortable making a raise with?
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Nov/Dec '07
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....Sunday League Team Champions
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Jan/Feb '08
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March/April '08
....F'in rubbish - 7letters
June/July '08
....Midweek League
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Last edited by 7letters; 05-15-2008 at 07:44 AM.
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05-15-2008, 07:31 AM
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Are we talking SnG or tourney here (I'm assuming if this is a tourney, everyone has been payed SOMETHING already)? Also, what are the blinds?
My answer is entirely dependent on the above two questions, along with my read of the big blind/big stack. If blinds are relatively high and I figure the big blind will call with any semi-decent hand (i.e., something such as 98s or KT, etc), I'll fold. However, if blinds are low or the big stack is acting fairly tight, I'll raise 3xbb or push outright (this depends entirely on how many blinds I have).
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Fault always lies in the same place, my fine babies: with him weak enough to lay blame. | | |
05-15-2008, 07:42 AM
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Sorry, didn't realise I left the blinds out...will edit first post.
oh and it's an MTT (I did get that bit down in the original post.If you stopped drinking so much you'd of noticed that)  
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May/June '07
....Team: 7 Black Balls - Ballandchain, Blackinks & 7letters
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Nov/Dec '07
....Team: 7 Balls - Ballandchain & 7letters
....Sunday League Team Champions
....Sunday League Individual Runner Up - 7letters
Jan/Feb '08
....Sunday League Individual Runner Up - 7letters
March/April '08
....F'in rubbish - 7letters
June/July '08
....Midweek League
....Winner - 7letters
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05-15-2008, 05:40 PM
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In that case, I push right here. While I would normally put in a raise to 12k or so, my position hurts me quite a bit in this situation, as villain in the big blind has me (and everyone else) easily covered, and this would be an excellent spot to use a Stop-and-Go play. By simply shoving, you are taking this away from him. A4 is a monster 4-handed, it is unlikely you are beat. If you are called, you are more likely than not ahead in the hand, and have a good chance to knock out a player or double up.
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Fault always lies in the same place, my fine babies: with him weak enough to lay blame. | | |
05-16-2008, 06:48 AM
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Quote:
Previous hands and your reads of opponents may well come into
play in a real situation but in theory what's the minimum kicker for your Ax that you would feel comfortable making a raise with?
| 4 handed, pretty much any Ace Im raising with. Standard 3xbb raise. I would not push at this point. As you stated previous hands and reads do come into play. I can still walk away from the pot if BB plays back at me if my read on this player indicates its best to do so. | | |
05-16-2008, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by BSQUAD  4 handed, pretty much any Ace Im raising with. Standard 3xbb raise. I would not push at this point. As you stated previous hands and reads do come into play. I can still walk away from the pot if BB plays back at me if my read on this player indicates its best to do so. | The way I see it, you've already made it to the money, you should be going for first and nothing less. By raising to 12k preflop, you are putting yourself in a VERY tough decision postflop, no matter what (big blind) villain decides to do.
If villain reraises you, what do you do? I would say there is a 50/50 shot between you being beat by a stronger ace or pocket pair, and you in a coinflip situation (22/33, as well as KQs, etc.). Either way, you can't call, and villain (with any intelligence) will know this.
Assuming he calls, then bets the flop, what do you do? Again - villain knows you can't call any bet unless you hit as well, so any ace-less flop villain can bet knowing you will fold.
Either way, you just lost yourself 12k, unless villain plays passive and you spike an ace on the flop - that's not something I would count on, myself. If I was the small blind (as opposed to UTG), I would agree with the raise to 12k; however, I believe late position in this hand is a DISadvantage, and therefore your options are limited to push or fold. Personally, I push.
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