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Originally Posted by FinK22  There is nearly 30,000 in the pot after you bet the flop and you have only 14,000 left in a $5 game on Stars. How often do you see players check/reraising all in on a bluff in these games (as thats what you were hoping for I guess)? |
Not necessairly, a middle pair (10's to 8's) was a likely holding (he could have even slowplayed Aces or Kings), and with my weak bet he may have put himself ahead and pushed. AK was also a possibility, another hand that would probably have atleast called the small bet considerng the pot odds. There was not a hand that he could have called my raise with that in no way connected with the board (except AK, but like i said, the small bet and considering the fact he was pretty pot comitted meant he was likely to call my bet anyway). The whole objective behind the flop bet was to not arouse the players suspicion. When i raise preflop, 90% of the time i continuation bet the flop, whatever the texture, I didn't want to do something completly out of the ordinary and very weak (considering how much strength i'd shown preflop, it just didn't fit and any decent player would have picked up on it) He had been on my table the whole game near enough and even seen me caught once or twice after someone check raised me and took the pot. Maybe i am thinking on a too complex level for my oppenents.
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Originally Posted by FinK22 But that IS the point... what was he beating preflop with AJ? We've all see worse quite a few times, what were any of them beating preflop with (worse than) AJ? And what makes this situation different than the number of other times you've seen worse? |
It was the latter stage of the tourny which had been running for awhile (alot of the fish had already been weeded out). Judging by his earlier play (he seemed pretty solid), i was very surpirsed to see AJ when all the chips went in. But yes, you make a valid point.
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Originally Posted by FinK22 You are bringing an awful lot of "advanced poker logic" into your points so let me ask you... if you think your opponents are intelligent enough to understand and fall for your advanced poker logic then why does the fact that he has AJ matter? Since when do you have to know you are ahead preflop to take down a pot? |
Ofcourse it matters, even the greatest pros in the world would not make that call with the intention of taking down the flop by outplaying their oppenent (i had demonstated considerable strength and had committed a large proportion of my stack). he THOUGHT he was ahead.
In different situations, ofcourse. I myself have called players i considered weak with very marginal hands (that i knew behind) in position because i knew i could outplay them post flop. However, this is VERY situational, not something you would try against someone who had shown immense strength.
HIS play (preflop call) was very bad, I got my money in best, HE got lucky. There is no argument. It's Poker and i'm sure i'l get over it (ready for the next tourny : ) ). Just wanted to have a rant, surely you of all people Fink can appreciate what a frustrating game this can be?
Good luck at the tables
I JUST SMASHED MY MOUSE 
