Insane Play By Raymond Rahme

Raymond Rahme, (you guys remember him right? Old South African dude, final tabled the Main Event last yaar???"), 1st hand of a $27 16 man SNG.

PokerStars Game #16171672820: Tournament #81883934, $25+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/03/22 - 17:16:16 (ET)
Table '81883934 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: jamesDfish (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: Ray Rahme (1500 in chips)
Seat 3: mardel-wd (1500 in chips)
Seat 4: Babooyah (1500 in chips)
Seat 5: lillebjørns (1500 in chips)
Seat 6: na8tivestyle (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: Hornelen (1500 in chips)
Seat 8: Daydeneg (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: Tim'sQTpie (1500 in chips)
Ray Rahme: posts small blind 10
mardel-wd: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Babooyah: folds
lillebjørns: folds
na8tivestyle: folds
Hornelen: calls 20
Daydeneg: calls 20
Tim'sQTpie: folds
jamesDfish: folds
Ray Rahme: raises 60 to 80
mardel-wd: calls 60
Hornelen: calls 60
Daydeneg: calls 60
*** FLOP *** [5s 2c 5c]
Ray Rahme: bets 100
mardel-wd: calls 100
Hornelen: folds
Daydeneg: folds
*** TURN *** [5s 2c 5c] [5h]
Ray Rahme: bets 340
mardel-wd: raises 980 to 1320 and is all-in
Ray Rahme: calls 980 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [5s 2c 5c 5h] [4c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Ray Rahme: shows [Ac 8h] (three of a kind, Fives)
mardel-wd: shows [Jh Qc] (three of a kind, Fives - lower kicker)
Ray Rahme collected 3160 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3160 | Rake 0
Board [5s 2c 5c 5h 4c]
Seat 1: jamesDfish (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Ray Rahme (small blind) showed [Ac 8h] and won (3160) with three of a kind, Fives
Seat 3: mardel-wd (big blind) showed [Jh Qc] and lost with three of a kind, Fives
Seat 4: Babooyah folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: lillebjørns folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: na8tivestyle folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Hornelen folded on the Flop
Seat 8: Daydeneg folded on the Flop
Seat 9: Tim'sQTpie folded before Flop (didn't bet)

How could he possibly have known he was ahead here!!!!!!!???? Its the first f*cking hand! Mardel didnt play the hand very well either but come on!!!! Rahme had no hand cept ace high, he had no position and saw his opponent call a big bet on the flop and make a big raise on the turn. Someone please defend him. He has A 8 offsuite!

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Lets see... 1st hand and someone gets their chips in with absolutely nothing? Thats crazy, you never see that...

Quit giving him so much credit.

I dont think it is that ridiculous of a play except that no way should he be raising with A-8 but that isnt even that crazy...

Someone gets their chips in with nothing and is called with nothing? Is this kind of play common or something? What are the odds of him having or making the best hand here? (I'm genuinly interested). Someone break it down for me please.

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G.T.S
***...KidJoker666...***

OK, let's make an attempt here to see what's going on...

Preflop: 2 limpers, and Rahme raises it to 80 with A8o. Certainly a loose-aggressive play, my guess is Rahme figured someone would raise with a strong ace (he figures his ace is best, and even if it's not, he could probably force a fold from someone with A9-AJ postflop), so he'll represent AQ+ here. If someone reraises him, he knows he's beat, and he gets away from the pot cheaply (whereas he may lose 300+ chips if he flops an ace).

Flop: Continuation bet, with this flop I'd probably bet out to. 1 caller, with 2 clubs and weak ace straight possibility.

Turn: Another bet, villain goes over the top all in. OK..time to analyze the hand:

Possible holdings for villain: 5x, 2x, mid pocket pair, bluff

Why would villain go all in with the case 5? He has Rahme betting into him, with what looks like a medium-high pocket pair.

Why would villain push with 2x? While it is unlikely Rahme has the case 5, he very well could hold something such as 88 - unless Rahme puts villain on the 5 (which has already been ruled out) or a higher pocket pair (see below), there is no way he will fold.

Why would villain push with a pocket pair, 66+? Look at the way the hand has been played - why would someone act so passively the entire way an overpair? Wouldn't it make a LOT more sense to raise on that flop, and see if his hand is good?

This only leaves the bluff option left. However, we never fixed the problem of whether or not Rahme held the strongest ace at the table - villain very well could hold A9+. I suppose given the 2.23:1 odds Rahme was given, he figured this play was +EV.

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1st place, March/April 2008 Sunday League

Fault always lies in the same place, my fine babies: with him weak enough to lay blame.

He is down $10,000 with a -22% ROI... something tells me it wasn't the great read you seem to want it to be. He was probably just getting his quota (Team Pstars player and all) and didn't care one bit about the outcome of the tourny. If you see it some other way feel free to post it, haven't had a debate in awhile

LOLOL!!! This makes more sense:

Oh, I'm not doubting it does - I was simply (trying) to qualify the read as good, as unlikely as it may be.

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Fault always lies in the same place, my fine babies: with him weak enough to lay blame.

didn't read all the responses to this thread, but you really are overreacting.

first of all, he called with ace high when the board has trips and a deuce. you act like he called with ten high on a AKQ2 board. second, he probably gets a lot of action with people trying to outplay him and bluff him so he figured what the hell i'll call.

and lastly, he's fucking raymond rahme. he's no better than the average player. all he did was luckbox his way to a wsop final table. didn't play too well from the televised hands if i remember correctly. think he made some horrid allin call with 77 and sucked out against a higher pair.

saying he doesn't care anything about the outcome of a tourney is a mistake. he should be playing well since there's a lot of money to be made in the short time that he remains under sponsorship. i don't think he'll be sponsored in two years time. plus the better he plays, the more likely stars will retain him.

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