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Old 03-16-2008, 11:36 PM
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So, as a pretty aggresive player i tend to get into situations like this, Euca put me in these 2 times and i doubled her up both times.

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PokerStars Game #16029007351: Tournament #80271620, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2008/03/16 - 18:22:40 (ET)
Table '80271620 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Eucalypta (5680 in chips)
Seat 6: bryan24 (4327 in chips)
Seat 9: DJUCKET (7993 in chips)
Eucalypta: posts the ante 25
bryan24: posts the ante 25
DJUCKET: posts the ante 25
bryan24: posts small blind 100
DJUCKET: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DJUCKET [Kd Qd]
Eucalypta: raises 400 to 600
bryan24: folds
DJUCKET: raises 1200 to 1800
Eucalypta: raises 1200 to 3000


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Unless I'm looking to shove all my chips preflop (and this is *not* one of those situations), I'm looking to enter pots that are moderately raised, whether I'm the aggressor or someone else. In your position, I'd simply call the preflop raise, possibly go with the stop-in-go, depending on how much my bets at the table have been respected so far.
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I usually 3bet with KQs in this spot unless i'm up against a super nit. Re-evaluate if facing a 4bet. You have to know how often the minraise happens and whether it means strength/weakness/nothing at all. Flat calling is pretty bad here 3handed unless you have a strong reason to think you're up against a monster.
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I usually 3bet with KQs in this spot unless i'm up against a super nit. Re-evaluate if facing a 4bet. You have to know how often the minraise happens and whether it means strength/weakness/nothing at all. Flat calling is pretty bad here 3handed unless you have a strong reason to think you're up against a monster.
There is 4900 in the pot, giving DJ just over 4:1 to call. If he is up against KK (worst case scenario), he is only 13% to win - meaning he would need 6.535:1 odds in order to break even. Even if he hits the miracle flop, he isn't going to get much more out of Euca, as it will either be a) 3 to a suit, b) hold 2 queens, or c) contain the TJA straight draw, IN ADDITION to the over card out there.

Now let's take the best case scenario - Euca holds QQ - and DJ is 34.76% to win. In this case, he needs 1.88:1 in order to break even. While he is clearly getting better than that, this is only true if all betting were to stop right there. Betting will not stop there, Euca will bet any favorable flop for her, and anything unfavorable (AKx board, 3 to a suit, etc), she will slow down, and DJ gets nothing out of the pot.

Case in point: If you put Euca on a monster, flat calling is the worst decision you can make.
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