How in the world does this guy make this call preflop?

Its not like he has me outchipped by a whole lot. If I double through him he is the low stack and im sitting pretty good. Not to mention the fact that the button limped and could easily call and then his hand cannot look good.

This is the kinda shit i've been running into lately. Terrible calls and yet somehow they hit these miracles.

Sorry, had to vent.

PokerStars Game #15757484465: Tournament #79759285, $12+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2008/03/05 - 12:05:23 (ET)
Table '79759285 1' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: cdcmiglino (4145 in chips)
Seat 4: rw11687 (1595 in chips)
Seat 6: chender713 (3260 in chips)
rw11687: posts small blind 75
chender713: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to rw11687 [9c 9d]
cdcmiglino: calls 150
rw11687: raises 450 to 600
chender713: calls 450
cdcmiglino: folds
*** FLOP *** [4c 4h Tc]
rw11687: bets 995 and is all-in
chender713: calls 995
*** TURN *** [4c 4h Tc] [Js]
*** RIVER *** [4c 4h Tc Js] [Ad]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
rw11687: shows [9c 9d] (two pair, Nines and Fours)
chender713: shows [Kh 4s] (three of a kind, Fours)
chender713 collected 3340 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3340 | Rake 0
Board [4c 4h Tc Js Ad]
Seat 1: cdcmiglino (button) folded before Flop
Seat 4: rw11687 (small blind) showed [9c 9d] and lost with two pair, Nines and Fours
Seat 6: chender713 (big blind) showed [Kh 4s] and won (3340) with three of a kind, Fours

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I see this happening every single day. No idea what these people are thinking, though...

yea I dont know what he was doing there but hey you made the right move there and he got lucky whatcha gonna do...

I would think he could find a better hand but I don't' think it was all that bad of a call. Heads up you can make that call with a pretty wide range of cards. Depending on your table image I could see the reasoning that if he put you on small pockets his K would be good if it hit. Also, if he put you on Ax then his cards were live so if he didn't see an Ace on the flop he had a chance to be strong.

Granted it sucks that the 4s are what he caught but really all he needed was a K (1:3). Probably a bit of a loose call but I've seen a lot worse.

Personally I'd have waited for a better look but if you had been playing aggressive all game then maybe.

Those are always frustrating.

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Thats kind of why I was upset, I had a pretty tight image. I was looking to double up for a while so I had been folding a lot. Plus, he wasnt HU with me. Another guy was in the pot and had yet to act AFTER he had already limped, so he had some sort of hand.

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well, he was a chip leader and you were not hurting him by your raise, that's why he called

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No he wasnt and yes I was. 450 more to him represents about 1/7.5 of his stack. Would you call if 1/7.5 of your stack was at stake with k4 off?

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I'd shove preflop at that spot with 99 and 10BB after someone limps. Reason being that the BB could call and get you into a 3way flop situation. That probably only happens like 20% of the time, give or take, but it really puts you in a bad spot. I don't want to get in a 3 way flop when two overs hit or an ace hits and you're first to act with 99 and 6BB.

Otherwise, your play is standard. Shoving flop is fine. Funny limp on the button with K4o there, lol.

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