Big hands CAN win, OMG!!!

PokerStars Game #15717171651: Tournament #79394686, $8.00+$0.80 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2008/03/03 - 17:07:31 (ET)
Table '79394686 71' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: PureNarcotic (3888 in chips)
Seat 2: klondikes (9703 in chips)
Seat 3: adrowe (4635 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 4: slavedog (4093 in chips)
Seat 5: 88<ATOM>06 (5145 in chips)
Seat 6: rw11687 (4125 in chips)
Seat 7: Chewie2000 (1410 in chips)
Seat 8: reactivat8 (1689 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 9: zlodej1978 (5450 in chips)
zlodej1978: posts small blind 75
PureNarcotic: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to rw11687 [4c 4s]
klondikes: folds
adrowe: folds
slavedog: calls 150
88<ATOM>06: calls 150
rw11687: calls 150
Chewie2000: calls 150
reactivat8: folds
zlodej1978: calls 75
PureNarcotic: checks
*** FLOP *** [Kh 2d Ac]
zlodej1978: checks
PureNarcotic: checks
slavedog: checks
88<ATOM>06: checks
rw11687: checks
Chewie2000: checks
*** TURN *** [Kh 2d Ac] [4h]
zlodej1978: checks
PureNarcotic: checks
slavedog: bets 450
88<ATOM>06: folds
rw11687: raises 750 to 1200
Chewie2000: folds
zlodej1978: folds
PureNarcotic: folds
slavedog: raises 2743 to 3943 and is all-in
rw11687: calls 2743
*** RIVER *** [Kh 2d Ac 4h] [9c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
slavedog: shows [Ad Ah] (three of a kind, Aces)
rw11687: shows [4c 4s] (three of a kind, Fours)
slavedog collected 8786 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 8786 | Rake 0
Board [Kh 2d Ac 4h 9c]
Seat 1: PureNarcotic (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 2: klondikes folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: adrowe folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: slavedog showed [Ad Ah] and won (8786) with three of a kind, Aces
Seat 5: 88<ATOM>06 folded on the Turn
Seat 6: rw11687 showed [4c 4s] and lost with three of a kind, Fours
Seat 7: Chewie2000 folded on the Turn
Seat 8: reactivat8 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: zlodej1978 (small blind) folded on the Turn

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WOW...send that to news media...put it on TV and radio....unbelievable...now go play checkers!

Listen to yourself Crapshoot, you bitch and moan about how they never win and act like a child. And then you try to act like its no big deal when they do. Man oh man, I have never personally met crazy people in my life but because of you, I know they exist.

Oh and look a little closer, I was the one that lost

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THFSOP Event #8 Champion
THFSOP Event #10 Champion

Current count: 3 Bracelets

That's an ugly turn for you rw, really strange as from what I've heard in the last day or two, big hands can't win, never play premium cards.

My first impression was, is this fake? Maybe play money?

LOL DJ. Yeah I was folding to any bet until that turn hit, and then I was doomed.

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THFSOP Event #8 Champion
THFSOP Event #10 Champion

Current count: 3 Bracelets

I would have been most worried about 3-5 as that's the only non premium hand that beats you, but to my surprise someone could hold Aces or Kings in that spot.

I'm getting brainwashed by crapshoot.

WOW...you guy's are unbelievable...I knew that you would go and dig up a winner with big cards and say see they always win...they never lose...it is totally impossible for them to lose.

Yes they can win and they do win...what I said is in many cases you lose it all or very big with them or you make next to nothing...also you wait around all day for them letting your chip stack dwindle...I said there is much more to poker than big pre-flop cards.

Read what I say don't interpret it the way that you want to!

So...you can make a lot with premiums...you can lose a lot with premiums...or you could win the blinds with premiums.

Hmmm...you know, I think I could do that exact same thing with 72o, let's look at the following (made-up on the spot) scenario:

Start of a 9-man SnG (10/20 blinds, 1500 chips each)

A few limpers, you look down in the big blind with 72o.

Flop comes 227. You check-raise, are put all in and call. A couple things could happen from here:

Opponent holds A2. You win (or sucked out on).
Opponent holds 77. You lose (or pull a 1-outer out of your ass to win).
None of that happens, you check-raise, initial bettor folds (as it was a steal) and you are left with a 150-ish pot.

Or, another scenario:

Start of a 9-man SnG

Everyone folds around, you look down (from the button) to see 72o. You say "phuck it" (incorrect spelling and all), I'm gonna steal with junk like crapshoot.

Flop comes 888. Opponent checks, you bet, opponent calls.
Turn comes 7. Opponent checks, you bet, opponent calls.
Turn comes x. Opponent checks, you go all in, opponent calls.

What could opponent have? AA - sure; 98s (or something like it) - sure; AK - sure

Either way, you have just won or lost a huge pot, or you have just won or lost next to nothing.

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Fault always lies in the same place, my fine babies: with him weak enough to lay blame.

Forget it man...I'm going to have this conversation with a door knob!...it's the same difference!