Opinions Please.

Cali said I was wrong to go all-in as I did. I think it was the correct play. If I only made the standard bet, he definitely makes the call and then I'm pot committed. I have top pair top kicker and shortstacked earley. I didn't really want a call and hoped to take down the pot on the flop. I figured anyone calling has trips or a flush draw. The guy calls with a five kicker and hits his five. What do you guys think?

POKERSTARS GAME #9578372528: TOURNAMENT #48310906, $5.00+$0.50 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL I (10/20) - 2007/04/24 - 00:29:18 (ET)
Table '48310906 10' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: ClutchTime77 (1330 in chips)
Seat 2: psikyc (2350 in chips)
Seat 3: Eve L Woman (2210 in chips)
Seat 4: repollo76 (150 in chips)
Seat 5: dealer99 f (1220 in chips)
Seat 6: StillBlaZn (1860 in chips)
Seat 7: plyany2cards (2190 in chips)
Seat 8: PokerRef (860 in chips)
Seat 9: Carnage78 (1330 in chips)
StillBlaZn: posts small blind 10
plyany2cards: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to PokerRef [As Td]
PokerRef: calls 20
Carnage78: folds
ClutchTime77: folds
psikyc: folds
Eve L Woman: calls 20
repollo76: folds
dealer99 f: folds
StillBlaZn: folds
plyany2cards: checks
*** FLOP *** [2s Th 6h]
plyany2cards: bets 220
PokerRef: raises 620 to 840 and is all-in
Eve L Woman: folds
plyany2cards: calls 620
*** TURN *** [2s Th 6h] [5h]
*** RIVER *** [2s Th 6h 5h] [Jc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
plyany2cards: shows [5c Tc] (two pair, Tens and Fives)
PokerRef: shows [As Td] (a pair of Tens)
plyany2cards collected 1750 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1750 | Rake 0
Board [2s Th 6h 5h Jc]
Seat 1: ClutchTime77 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: psikyc folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Eve L Woman folded on the Flop
Seat 4: repollo76 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: dealer99 f (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: StillBlaZn (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: plyany2cards (big blind) showed [5c Tc] and won (1750) with two pair, Tens and Fives
Seat 8: PokerRef showed [As Td] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 9: Carnage78 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

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Actually the caller was wrong,you made the right read and pushed him in.He got bailed.
Either way you end up all in,unless you thought he was on a draw and would have folded..

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That was a crazy play on his part. I think you played it well. You were well ahead at the point your chips went in.

The only thing you could have done differently is raise preflop but that could be debatable from early position that early in the tournament you'd expect to get a lot of calls anyway.

His big bet on the flop looks like a semi-bluff to me and he must have bee taking a hit on the crack pipe when he called the all-in.

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He bet 220 into a pot with only 70 in it. He was obviously trying to price out anyone with a flush draw figuring that with 3 players in the hand that his tens were good. That's more then three times the pot. He is obviously hoping to take it down right there.

I don't think you could have made a play that left you with any chips at the end of this hand Ref. Obviously he would have called any raise if he called your all in. And if you had made a standard raise, he would likely have put you all in. If you smooth called he's putting you in on the turn when he hits two pair. You might be worried about the flush and been able to get away from the hand then, but the fact is you would have 1/4th of your stack invested in this pot by just calling and if you were feeling short stacked at the start of the hand, you'll definately be feeling short by laying it down.

This hand gives this guy the chip lead, but I expect he didn't cash. He made a bad bet and a bad call. A bet of 100 is enough to price out the flush draw if there is one, not that online players pay attention to pot odds for the most part. He's out of position and severly overbets the pot. He's only getting called when he's beat, which is what happened. He got luck and hit is three outer, but with plays like that he's not going to fair well.

I think you made the right move Ref, but against a player who wasn't smart enough to know when he's beat.

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Well I guess I dont have to add my 2 cents to that. Seems like everyones in agreement. I agree with them. Nuff said.

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same here, i agree with everyone. my only bit of advice, which can be totally ignored depending on style of play, is to fold ATo from early positon. i know it looks good and im very guilty of playing these types of hands early, but somewhere in the back of my mind know its probably best to fold em.

however, you made the right play and got very unlucky, like grum said, i dont see you having any chips left no matter what you do on the flop. your too SS to lay it down on the turn.

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Thank you rw..I would have folded A10 also

In defense of myself I would also like to say that although I am not a great poker player and I have alot to learn.. but what I have learned I learned from the best. I believe Steve started out in this particular MTT a little to aggressively and he continued to play almost every single hand that he got losing each hand. He lost 640 chips early on in this tournament. I think he should have just folded the A10 rather than go all in with as he had one pair only.

All in with one pair? The blinds were on 10/20 and there was still plenty of poker to play and he could have rebuilt his chipstack. I almost felt like he tilted here. I dont know if what I am trying to say is coming out right, but it was still very early on in the tourny. I always refer to rule number one when starting out in any MTT or SnG.
Just trying to keep the peace at home

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I can respect your and RWs view on how to play it,but Im looking at the read and he made the right one.
Even though its early in the mtt,you have trust your gut

Every hand ref could have put this guy on,is the same reason the other guy should have foldedhe got his chips in the middle and was ahead when he did so and was just out drawn.

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oh no, i agree xtra. he made the right play after the flop, a good read and very unlucky. my only thing is that with a SS but a lot of blinds left in your stack, i dont wanna get involved in early position with ATo.

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