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Old 01-24-2007, 01:32 AM
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PokerStars Game #8089243263: Tournament #41285939, $4.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level X (400/800) - 2007/01/23 - 19:11:23 (ET)
Table '41285939 8' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Scottishben (26787 in chips)
Seat 2: NOTCHE (15444 in chips)
Seat 3: Sainngia (12781 in chips)
Seat 6: KaliMystique (10065 in chips)
Seat 8: mozel (19424 in chips)
Seat 9: kbun69 (48067 in chips)
Scottishben: posts the ante 50
NOTCHE: posts the ante 50
Sainngia: posts the ante 50
KaliMystique: posts the ante 50
mozel: posts the ante 50
kbun69: posts the ante 50
kbun69: posts small blind 400
Scottishben: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Scottishben [Ks 3d]
NOTCHE: folds
Sainngia: folds
KaliMystique: folds
mozel: folds
kbun69: calls 400
Scottishben: checks
*** FLOP *** [3c Qd 5s]
kbun69: checks
Scottishben: bets 800
kbun69: calls 800
*** TURN *** [3c Qd 5s] [Kd]
kbun69: checks
Scottishben: bets 800
kbun69: raises 2400 to 3200
Scottishben: raises 4000 to 7200
kbun69: calls 4000
*** RIVER *** [3c Qd 5s Kd] [8h]
kbun69: checks
Scottishben: bets 6400
kbun69: calls 6400
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Scottishben: shows [Ks 3d] (two pair, Kings and Threes)
kbun69: shows [5c Kh] (two pair, Kings and Fives)
kbun69 collected 30700 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 30700 | Rake 0
Board [3c Qd 5s Kd 8h]
Seat 1: Scottishben (big blind) showed [Ks 3d] and lost with two pair, Kings and Threes
Seat 2: NOTCHE folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Sainngia folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: KaliMystique folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: mozel (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: kbun69 (small blind) showed [5c Kh] and won (30700) with two pair, Kings and Fives

I have a fairly decent read on this guy. He can be a little loose but tends to bet huge when he has a good hand (2 pair etc) and otherwise doesnt do anything too stupid.

Without my reads on him to suggest that he cannot have anything too strong (he hasnt made the bet he usually makes) I make my bet on the river as about the high end of what he would call with ak. Without this degree of reads I would not want to tangle with a chip leader to this degree as I could be against trips etc. Against other opponents I would check and wait for him maybe induce a bluff, maybe get the info to fold to a big hand. Overall I just think this is one of those that whilst the turn was reached it was hard to escape without taking a big hit.

In retrospect (and from future hands) it was clear that he had (unusually) deviated from his standard play to adapt to my table image. A particular run of cards had led me to appear to play in a way different from what I actually do. This was combined with a lot of opponents who were easy to fold out of pots. Had I done what I sometimes do and shown my hands a couple of times then I am sure I would have been seen by this guy in a different light and he would not have adapted his play in the same way. Given 2 pair is pretty hard to fold (on those cards) I am not 100% sure it would have made a difference but I think there was a moderate case for showing some of my (strong) hands as this would have counteracted slightly from the loose aggressive image I was portraying as a result of some good cards and good oppertunities for bluffs.

Still a tough one - i ended up finishing 11th out of the real money. Only a $4 game but if not 100% happy with my play I tend to drop stakes a bit till i correct my leaks. Got a bit to go before I return to normal stakes I think, made 3 bad blunders (counting this hand) although generally played quite well.
  
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I don't think I could have gotten away from that one either ben. I think I would have made the same plays and would have been unfortunate just like you. I espicially like the "feeler" bet you threw out on the flop. That is one of the big mistakes I see a lot of players making, which is not betting enough or not betting at all on the flop. All in all I think you played the hand the same way I would have. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing though.

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