constructive criticism welcome

Ok what do you guys think about my play here? Of course I liked it because of the outcome, and yes I thought I my hand was good just wasn't sure

Full Tilt Poker Game #760546717: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (5035170), Table 3 - 40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:03:14 ET - 2006/07/02
Seat 1: dmejias18 (5,745)
Seat 2: hall05 (1,870)
Seat 3: azpokerking10 (7,870)
Seat 4: BiffBrumley (240)
Seat 5: Schronce (1,870)
Seat 6: boygator25 (1,320)
Seat 7: ckncall (2,465)
Seat 8: TEAM GOAT (2,800)
BiffBrumley posts the small blind of 40
Schronce posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Schronce [7c Kd]
boygator25 folds
ckncall folds
TEAM GOAT folds
dmejias18 folds
hall05 folds
azpokerking10 raises to 160
BiffBrumley folds
Schronce calls 80
*** FLOP *** [6c 9s 7h]
Schronce checks
azpokerking10 bets 360
Schronce raises to 720
azpokerking10 calls 360
*** TURN *** [6c 9s 7h] [4h]
Schronce bets 990, and is all in
azpokerking10 calls 990
Schronce shows [7c Kd]
azpokerking10 shows [Ad 6d]
*** RIVER *** [6c 9s 7h 4h] [Kh]
Schronce shows two pair, Kings and Sevens
azpokerking10 shows a pair of Sixes
Schronce wins the pot (3,780) with two pair, Kings and Sevens
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3,780 | Rake 0
Board: [6c 9s 7h 4h Kh]
Seat 1: dmejias18 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: hall05 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: azpokerking10 (button) showed [Ad 6d] and lost with a pair of Sixes
Seat 4: BiffBrumley (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: Schronce (big blind) showed [7c Kd] and won (3,780) with two pair, Kings and Sevens
Seat 6: boygator25 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: ckncall didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: TEAM GOAT didn't bet (folded)

Its crazy to move all in on the turn with second pair, get called and still be good.

This hand is the same guy again, poor fella had the chip lead and just blew it away.

Full Tilt Poker Game #760555790: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (5035170), Table 3 - 50/100 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:06:38 ET - 2006/07/02
Seat 1: dmejias18 (6,145)
Seat 2: hall05 (1,710)
Seat 3: azpokerking10 (5,920)
Seat 4: BiffBrumley (200)
Seat 5: Schronce (3,740)
Seat 6: boygator25 (1,440)
Seat 7: ckncall (2,305)
Seat 8: TEAM GOAT (2,720)
TEAM GOAT posts the small blind of 50
dmejias18 posts the big blind of 100
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Schronce [Ac Ad]
hall05 folds
azpokerking10 calls 100
BiffBrumley raises to 200, and is all in
Schronce raises to 600
boygator25 folds
ckncall folds
TEAM GOAT folds
dmejias18 folds
azpokerking10 calls 500
*** FLOP *** [7d Jd 8h]
azpokerking10 checks
Schronce bets 600
azpokerking10 calls 600
*** TURN *** [7d Jd 8h] [Jc]
azpokerking10 checks
Schronce checks
*** RIVER *** [7d Jd 8h Jc] [7h]
azpokerking10 checks
Schronce checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Schronce shows [Ac Ad] (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
azpokerking10 mucks
Schronce wins the side pot (2,000) with two pair, Aces and Jacks
BiffBrumley mucks
Schronce wins the main pot (750) with two pair, Aces and Jacks
BiffBrumley stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2,750 Main pot 750. Side pot 2,000. | Rake 0
Board: [7d Jd 8h Jc 7h]
Seat 1: dmejias18 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: hall05 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: azpokerking10 mucked [9h Qh] - two pair, Jacks and Sevens
Seat 4: BiffBrumley mucked [9s 9d] - two pair, Jacks and Nines
Seat 5: Schronce showed [Ac Ad] and won (2,750) with two pair, Aces and Jacks
Seat 6: boygator25 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: ckncall (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: TEAM GOAT (small blind) folded before the Flop

What do you guys do preflop with AA with a small stack already allin and the big stack had just limped before him ? Yea I think the checks on the turn and river were bad now that I look back, but in the heat of battle I got scared when the second jack hit on the turn. I had built a 2000 side pot up so it could of been worse I guess. Any comments welcome of course....

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If I'm in this position I'm folding preflop. The raise on the button seems like a blind steal, but I don't like to tangle with the chip leader unless I have a strong hand. And even then I'd like to be in a hand against someone who can't bust me out.

Having said that, I like the check raise on the flop. This gives you more information then if you had bet out. He calls, so that is a reasonable sign that he caught something on the flop. If he had come back over the top I'd be laying it down, but he didn't do that.

I'm not sure I like the all in on the turn. Most of the time if you get called you are going to be beat. This guy figured he had the chips to gamble with you. That's dangerous and why I don't like to tangle with chip leaders. He had some outs, ace or six, that would have knocked you out of the tournament. But based on the size of the pot and the size of your stack, you couldn't make any other bet that might be enough to shake him off his hand even if he only had two over cards.

So I think it was a bit of a gamble, but it worked out well. In poker, the end justifies the means. If you win the hand, then you made the right play. If you lose the hand, then you made the wrong play. So you made the right play.

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Thats what he gets for trying to bully you. Very ballsy playing of that first hand on your part, and your instinct was correct. The second hand I would have raised, but not that much (although you still got a caller) , hoping for a re-raise from any aggressive players after me. The short stack was just incidental, and your large re-raised might scare off other callers. That was a pretty scary board for pocket Aces but it worked out for you. Nice playing.

Hi Teedough,

I too wouldnt be in the hand with K7o. I don't see the reason for playing it here. You have already put 80 chips in. The only reason I would be in a pot with that hand is too make a move - but I see no reason to do this at such an early stage in the tourney.

With the size of your stack, I'd say your in a position to have a look at maybe just a couple of flops, with marginal cards- but with K7o? What are you hoping to hit? If you hit a K, youre still lost in no-mans-land. I think it's far better to fold hands like this -wait till youre in a stronger position to dominate a pot.

In this case you did call. As Grumbar wrote, I liked your check-raise post flop. I don't expect a call here unless he's got something. When he calls your raise...well...what choices do you have? and this is why I simply wouldnt be in the pot in the first place. I just don't want decisions like that when I'm on a small pair with very little in the way of outs.

Here I'm thinking he's possibly setting me up for my stack (he's playing pockets? he's got the straight? or he's on an open ender?..might be my thinking) You go allin, but it's desperation..and youre likely to get a call from the big stack(even if he is playing rubbish like A6) What cards did you put him on?

In the end you did well and won the hand, so nice one but hands like that are tough and I rather do without them.

The second hand, well not much to say about that one. Here again though, it's a dangerous flop for AA. I'd possibly bet the flop, trying to buy what information I could, but I'd already have one eye on conserving my chips. I don't want to risk much in this hand and again I'd be thinking about waiting for a better opportunity to increase my stack.

Well those are my thoughts- not saying I'm correct in any way and I'd be intersted on anyone elses views on this.

7letters

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If you mean the first hand Wbtczn, I don't see where his good pot odds are. I don't even know what he can count as outs after the flop.

I'm not sure if I can work out the implied odds here, how can we imply anything even if he hits a 7 or a K? I agree with you though, I'd fold preflop.

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"If it were me I'd bet everything...But that's me -- I'm an aggressive gambler; Mr. Vegas" -- Dewey Oxberger

DONK-the player who just took your chips -- xtra

as you will now be an "Accomplished Donk" -- SonnyChiba

Number of Royal Flushes: 2 -- Poker Room, Pokerstars

Yep, I get you now. My mistake. I added up the pot and I was in the mind that after the call he'd put 160(BB plus 80) in the pot to win 200, which is true -but I'm not allowing for any implied odds at all there am I. Yes as you said when he made the call , he was putting 80 in to win 260. I stand corrected