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Old 06-08-2006, 02:01 AM
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Default Unreal how bad I'm running on stars..

ITM Bubble.. I'm just trying to figure out how I can lose every all-in where I'm ahead lol.

PokerStars Game #5184837183: Tournament #25837841, $3.00+$0.30 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2006/06/07 - 20:59:36 (ET)
Table '25837841 136' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: virtuerostov (2366 in chips)
Seat 2: goldynchild (12600 in chips)
Seat 3: LocalGuy11 (9920 in chips)
Seat 4: chip0375 (2078 in chips)
Seat 5: fugazi17 (10226 in chips)
Seat 6: pokerohly (12178 in chips)
Seat 7: FunkyMonk66 (4485 in chips)
Seat 8: xMOUSSx (10335 in chips)
Seat 9: VeronicaLake (4970 in chips)
virtuerostov: posts the ante 25
goldynchild: posts the ante 25
LocalGuy11: posts the ante 25
chip0375: posts the ante 25
fugazi17: posts the ante 25
pokerohly: posts the ante 25
FunkyMonk66: posts the ante 25
xMOUSSx: posts the ante 25
VeronicaLake: posts the ante 25
virtuerostov: posts small blind 200
goldynchild: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to virtuerostov [Ad Ah]
LocalGuy11: folds
chip0375: folds
fugazi17: raises 400 to 800
pokerohly: folds
FunkyMonk66: folds
xMOUSSx: folds
VeronicaLake: folds
virtuerostov: raises 1541 to 2341 and is all-in
goldynchild: folds
fugazi17: calls 1541
*** FLOP *** [2s 9s 4s]
*** TURN *** [2s 9s 4s] [Qc]
*** RIVER *** [2s 9s 4s Qc] [Ts]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
virtuerostov: shows [Ad Ah] (a pair of Aces)
fugazi17: shows [Tc Th] (three of a kind, Tens)
fugazi17 collected 5307 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5307 | Rake 0
Board [2s 9s 4s Qc Ts]
Seat 1: virtuerostov (small blind) showed [Ad Ah] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 2: goldynchild (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: LocalGuy11 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: chip0375 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: fugazi17 showed [Tc Th] and won (5307) with three of a kind, Tens
Seat 6: pokerohly folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: FunkyMonk66 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: xMOUSSx folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: VeronicaLake (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Old 06-08-2006, 02:27 AM
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No matter how good you are or how good you play, poker is and will be streaky. Only thing you can do is try and make the bad streaks as short as possible and the good streaks as long as possible.
  
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HU is so much funner. Less beats and more skill. Lost my first two and won nine straight lol. Two tabling.
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ITM Bubble.. I'm just trying to figure out how I can lose every all-in where I'm ahead lol.


virtuerostov: posts small blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to virtuerostov [Ad Ah]

fugazi17: raises 400 to 800

virtuerostov: raises 1541 to 2341 and is all-in

fugazi17: calls 1541

*** FLOP *** [2s 9s 4s]
*** TURN *** [2s 9s 4s] [Qc]
*** RIVER *** [2s 9s 4s Qc] [Ts]

*** SHOW DOWN ***
virtuerostov: shows [Ad Ah] (a pair of Aces)
fugazi17: shows [Tc Th] (three of a kind, Tens)
fugazi17 collected 5307 from pot

Here we are again.....lmao

Perhaps not so much this hand but in answer to your question......stop going all in before the flop dude (I know your short stacked bud) you could have called the pre-flop bet(although you had to show your strength), checked the flop, bet the turn.....who knows he may......he may just of passed.....I don't know, but the all-in option prevented any of this being possible.....it became a 2 horse race you are out in front at the start and then you were just pipped at the post by the underdog.

Yet again it's another tough one Virt you were short and you were winning so in this instance maybe there was nothing much different you could of done......but the continuing trend seems to be this all in pre-flop that's going on in your game at the mo.......(I very well may be wrong)………So this is why I responded.....all-in, pre-flop never the best move I think regardless of stack.....(well unless it's less than the blind of course and you are the blind....lol).

Aces promise so much, deliver so little....from time to time…lmao

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...stop going all in before the flop dude ...but the continuing trend seems to be this all in pre-flop that's going on in your game at the mo
With all due respect to Master Sonny (or should I start calling you Alladin? ), I don't agree. I'll take all in heads up with AA every time...especially as a short stack. What do the odds makers tell us? AA against any other hand heads up is an 80% favorite. If there were 5 people in the pot, that'd be a different story.

Of course, I've been accused of being reckless....
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At that point in the tourney, you have to go all-in short stacked. If he would have just raised, the large stack with pocket tens would have called or gone all-in anyway. After the flop he would also call any bet put out. The turn might have concerned him but now pot odds make him committed to completion. He (Virtuerostov) just was unlucky. He played it right.
  
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With all due respect to Master Sonny (or should I start calling you Alladin? ), I don't agree. I'll take all in heads up with AA every time...especially as a short stack. What do the odds makers tell us? AA against any other hand heads up is an 80% favorite. If there were 5 people in the pot, that'd be a different story.

wbtczn my friend I cannot disagree with you at all sir......


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Here we are again.....lmao

Perhaps not so much this hand but in answer to your question......stop going all in before the flop dude (I know your short stacked bud)

Yet again it's another tough one Virt you were short and you were winning so in this instance maybe there was nothing much different you could of done......but the continuing trend seems to be this all in pre-flop that's going on in your game at the mo.......(I very well may be wrong)………

IMO of course bud.

My post was more looking at the last couple of HH's that virt has posted where when he is going all-in he DOES have the best of it but then is being outdrawn by the end......so of course with aces he had no other option I was just highlighting the all-in again as I just wanted to see if this is becoming a trend in Virts game (and one I think should be expelled asap).

I've read my post back and realised they it may well of looked like I was saying you shouldn't go all-in HU with aces......when what I was attempting to do was look at the bigger picture after looking at the last couple of HH's...

But yet still then I may well be way off the mark.

And why prey tell Alladin....?????
  
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Thanks for all the replies again. Sonny has it out for me haha but I really appreciate it. You're giving me a different outlook. As far as the "all-in" game, maybe so but I dont use it everytime. I only use the all-in when I'm A. Shortstacked or B. Re-stealing.

Here I don't think theres a better play, just really posting a bad beat :\. To just call, I'd be calling off more then 1/3rd of the stack. Say an all clubs board hits and then I'm really screwed. He's going to call my all-in because of odds so.

It was odd though. When I saw those Aces in the hole, I thought of ways I could lose the hand post-flop in my mind. I actually said outloud.. "I'm going to bust out on the bubble with Aces here haha" and gave myself a little chuckle when I did.

Interesting enough, I wasn't tilted. At all. Just kept realizing that in the long run I'll be winning these, its just the short run I'm running terrible with these 70-80% all-ins pre.
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Agree you had to go all-in. There was no other option. There was already over 1400 in the pot so any smaller raise would have been called by him since he had a decent stack. Even going all-in was virtually an automatic call for him since it was only 1500ish chips to win about 3000.

Your only other option is to call and hope the BB doesn't call so you are heads up, but.....

1. Its still only going to be 1500 to win 3000.
2. Do you really want to not raise with aces at this point?
3. As Stripes mentions, you want your money in pre-flop with Aces.

I FULLY understand your frustration on getting sucked out on, but I also think you played this right.

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Yeah Virt I've been thinking about these posts all day.....1) the one I wrote last night (my only defence was I had had a beer) 2) the one I wrote in reply to wb.....and I'm going to have to say by far not my best posts ever.....in fact (and believe me I appreciate you being patience with my responses V...lol ) maybe the all-in information can be extracted from this.....regarding completely different plays.......but I feel we could quite comfortably bin the rest as I feel this is the best place for it......lmao.....

Just caught myself of writing form....lmao
  
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