Um what?

This guy was a total retard since the beginning of the game..

Now look @ this..

Hand #30644609-31 at SnG-0003h (No Limit Hold'em Sit and Go)
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Started at 27/Mar/06 14:13:48

bstnsportsfn is at seat 0 with 3330.
cher04 is at seat 1 with 1090.
seminoron is at seat 2 with 580.
tensluver is at seat 3 with 2075.
TrekkerT is at seat 4 with 890.
kazabird is at seat 5 with 1450.
virtuexru is at seat 6 with 1220.
carolfrench is at seat 7 with 2545.
sajules is at seat 8 with 1820.
The button is at seat 4.

kazabird posts the small blind of 20.
virtuexru posts the big blind of 40.

bstnsportsfn: -- --
cher04: -- --
seminoron: -- --
tensluver: -- --
TrekkerT: -- --
kazabird: -- --
virtuexru: 9h 9d
carolfrench: -- --
sajules: -- --

Pre-flop:

carolfrench calls. sajules folds. bstnsportsfn
folds. cher04 folds. seminoron folds. tensluver
folds. TrekkerT raises to 180. kazabird folds.
virtuexru goes all-in for 1220. carolfrench folds.
TrekkerT goes all-in for 890. virtuexru is returned
330 (uncalled).

Tournament all-in showdown -- players show:

TrekkerT shows 3s Jc.
virtuexru shows 9h 9d.


Flop (board: Ad 4c 2h):

(no action in this round)


Turn (board: Ad 4c 2h Th):

(no action in this round)


River (board: Ad 4c 2h Th Jd):

(no action in this round)




Showdown:

TrekkerT has Jc Ad 4c Th Jd: a pair of jacks.
virtuexru has 9h 9d Ad Th Jd: a pair of nines.


Hand #30644609-31 Summary:

No rake is taken for this hand.
TrekkerT wins 1840 with a pair of jacks.

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EuroBet - revolutionv

Unlucky. That kind of crap happens to me constantly online, and no doubt happens to the majority of the forum members here too.

In fact, look at this first hand in the $5 SNG I am currently sat in:

Mar 27 19:31:15] : Hand Start.
[Mar 27 19:31:15] : Seat 1 : cadmunkey has $2,000
[Mar 27 19:31:15] : Seat 2 : riverrat21 has $2,000
[Mar 27 19:31:15] : Seat 3 : philophil has $2,000
[Mar 27 19:31:15] : Seat 4 : systemman has $2,000
[Mar 27 19:31:15] : Seat 5 : Dannyboy727 has $2,000
[Mar 27 19:31:15] : Seat 6 : sfmcar has $2,000
[Mar 27 19:31:15] : Seat 7 : 2guns a-k has $2,000
[Mar 27 19:31:15] : Seat 8 : URARUBBA has $2,000
[Mar 27 19:31:15] : Seat 9 : essar has $2,000
[Mar 27 19:31:15] : 2guns a-k is the dealer.
[Mar 27 19:31:15] : URARUBBA posted small blind.
[Mar 27 19:31:15] : essar posted big blind.
[Mar 27 19:31:15] : Game [1] started with 9 players.
[Mar 27 19:31:15] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Mar 27 19:31:15] : Seat 1 : cadmunkey has 2d Ts
[Mar 27 19:31:17] : cadmunkey folded.
[Mar 27 19:31:20] : riverrat21 called 40 and raised 80
[Mar 27 19:31:25] : philophil folded.
[Mar 27 19:31:26] : systemman called 120
[Mar 27 19:31:26] : Dannyboy727 called 120
[Mar 27 19:31:27] : sfmcar folded.
[Mar 27 19:31:27] : 2guns a-k folded.
[Mar 27 19:31:28] : URARUBBA called 100
[Mar 27 19:31:30] : Stakes: 20/40 Current level: 1 Next level in: 12 min.
[Mar 27 19:31:31] : essar folded.
[Mar 27 19:31:31] : Dealing flop.
[Mar 27 19:31:31] : Board cards [Th Js 4c]
[Mar 27 19:31:33] : URARUBBA checked.
[Mar 27 19:31:38] : riverrat21 checked.
[Mar 27 19:31:44] : systemman bet 200
[Mar 27 19:31:47] : Dannyboy727 called 200 and raised 1,600
[Mar 27 19:31:50] : URARUBBA folded.
[Mar 27 19:31:50] : Stakes: 20/40 Current level: 1 Next level in: 12 min.
[Mar 27 19:31:51] : riverrat21 folded.
[Mar 27 19:31:54] : systemman called 1,600 and raised 80 and is All-in
[Mar 27 19:31:54] : Under-Raise rules are now in effect.
[Mar 27 19:31:57] : Dannyboy727 called 80 and is All-in
[Mar 27 19:31:57] : Showdown!
[Mar 27 19:32:00] : Seat 4 : systemman has Qd Qh
[Mar 27 19:32:00] : Seat 5 : Dannyboy727 has 4s 9s
[Mar 27 19:32:05] : Board cards [Th Js 4c 7h 2c]
[Mar 27 19:32:05] : Seat 4 : systemman has Qd Qh
[Mar 27 19:32:05] : systemman has Pair: Queens
[Mar 27 19:32:05] : Seat 5 : Dannyboy727 has 4s 9s
[Mar 27 19:32:05] : Dannyboy727 has Pair: 4s
[Mar 27 19:32:05] : systemman wins 4,280 with Pair: Queens
[Mar 27 19:32:11] : Stakes: 20/40 Current level: 1 Next level in: 11 min.
[Mar 27 19:32:15] : Hand is over.
[Mar 27 19:32:19] : URARUBBA : what a rubba
[Mar 27 19:32:20] : cadmunkey : lol

he got lucky virtue however in a way i think you got what you deserved

i think you were a little rash reraising all in here. You had one player behind you and the blinds were only at 20/40. With 1200 chips i dont think any cards call for going all in...particularly pre flop. You risked your whole tournaments on this - it was very bad play in my opinion.

I know this guy was an idiot by raising and then calling your all in - but you need to iron out these kind of problems in your game because your putting your whole tournament at stake on coin flip situations when you dont have to.

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I was way ahead of a coin flip. The reasoning for this was I KNEW he was a donk. It was a 1$ SnG, he was playing everyhand and raising any hand. I knew it if he called with a crap hand I could double up. Maybe flawed thinking but meh.

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EuroBet - revolutionv

how did you know you were way ahead?If he had 10J or A10 you would only be slightly ahead. If he had pocket tens you were a huge underdog.

I understand you need to change your requirements though it doesnt mean you should risk everything.

Realise that
* you could have just called the raise
* you were risking everything on this
* your pocket nines will beat this 3J about 70% of the time. However, what im trying to make you realise though is that he could have had a much better hand. Even bad players get good hands sometimes.
* There was 1 player behind you still to act - he had already called
* The blinds were only at 40!!!

if its only a $1 sng then your playing below your level - certainly if its at a level where you will play much looser because its only a dollar.

hope you dont think im being hard on you but the more you play the more you will realise that going all in pre flop is rarely a good option at the start of a tournament

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im an idiot i know. i somehow tried to make it seem like the right play.

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EuroBet - revolutionv

dont be too hard on yourself (hope you didnt think i was being too hard on you)

the reason i can say all this is because ive been there and done it. I used to go allin in situations like this all the time I learned the hard way!!!

sit back and think about it. Think about what the other player is thinking and for a minute forget that this guy was a real chump For any average player to call this allin they must have at least an ok hand. At least Ace with good kicker or a decent pocket pair...at the very least two high cards ...either way it means that at best your only slightly ahead

Which means that when you go all in you will
* When they call : win the hand about say 50% of the time
* When they call : lose the hand about 50% of the time
* win the blinds plus his initial raise when he folds.

just a small addition.

If the blinds are at 20/40 - ie the very start of a tournament, and you are in a reverse position, think about what you should do?

If someone reraised you the rest of your chips you would need to fold AK, AQ, AJ etc. I know it would be sickening to do so but youd have to


you need to take risks in poker...however, at the start of a tournament you rarely need to take such a risk unless you have a monster

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Regardless of if you made the right move or not, his call of your all-in with what he had is horrible play. The Jack on the river is just a disgusting beat, but there will be more games, just shrug it off.

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