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Old 03-21-2006, 07:52 AM
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But you can't argue with pulling a triple takeout!
I had the feeling those two were holding high cards, not big pairs, so I was willing to gamble with 2. A caller behind me made me nervous, though...

Full Tilt Poker Game #513078309: $40 Freeroll (3245886), Table 54 - 20/40 - No Limit Hold'em - 1:49:36 ET - 2006/03/21
Seat 1: natty_23 (2,930)
Seat 2: Ruty21 (1,065), is sitting out
Seat 3: bwcoates (1,450)
Seat 4: BBubbles (515)
Seat 5: Main Event777 (1,380)
Seat 6: Ranndom (2,880)
Seat 7: FeltSurfer (2,860)
Seat 8: BradJames1 (3,120)
Seat 9: pokerbeast5 (3,290)
Ruty21 posts the small blind of 20
bwcoates posts the big blind of 40
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BradJames1 [Th Td]
BBubbles raises to 515, and is all in
Main Event777 calls 515
Ranndom folds
FeltSurfer folds
BradJames1 raises to 3,120, and is all in
pokerbeast5 folds
natty_23 folds
Ruty21 folds
bwcoates calls 1,410, and is all in
Main Event777 calls 865, and is all in
BradJames1 shows [Th Td]
bwcoates shows [Ad Kd]
BBubbles shows [Ac Js]
Main Event777 shows [Ks Ah]
Uncalled bet of 1,670 returned to BradJames1
*** FLOP *** [4c 4h Qs]
*** TURN *** [4c 4h Qs] [7d]
*** RIVER *** [4c 4h Qs 7d] [5c]
BradJames1 shows two pair, Tens and Fours
bwcoates shows a pair of Fours
BradJames1 wins side pot #2 (140) with two pair, Tens and Fours
Main Event777 shows a pair of Fours
BradJames1 wins side pot #1 (2,595) with two pair, Tens and Fours
BBubbles shows a pair of Fours
BradJames1 wins the main pot (2,080) with two pair, Tens and Fours
BBubbles stands up
Main Event777 stands up
bwcoates stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4,815 Main pot 2,080. Side pot 1 2,595. Side pot 2 140. | Rake 0
Board: [4c 4h Qs 7d 5c]
Seat 1: natty_23 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: Ruty21 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: bwcoates (big blind) showed [Ad Kd] and lost with a pair of Fours
Seat 4: BBubbles showed [Ac Js] and lost with a pair of Fours
Seat 5: Main Event777 showed [Ks Ah] and lost with a pair of Fours
Seat 6: Ranndom didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: FeltSurfer didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: BradJames1 showed [Th Td] and won (4,815) with two pair, Tens and Fours
Seat 9: pokerbeast5 didn't bet (folded)
  
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As a general rule, I think it should be stated that individual hand histories - especially those from freerolls...shouldn't be posted asking for advice. No offense, chickenman, but the fact poker isn't just about the cards, its about getting a read on the players and the type of game they play. As a general rule of thumb most freeroll players are overly reckless, and so I can't really say you should or shouldn't have made that play. Obviously, you thought your pocket pair was strong enough to hold up against 2 other players (and in fact survived against 3 players) - nice job on winning the chips.
  
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As a general rule, I think it should be stated that individual hand histories - especially those from freerolls...shouldn't be posted asking for advice. No offense, chickenman, but the fact poker isn't just about the cards, its about getting a read on the players and the type of game they play. As a general rule of thumb most freeroll players are overly reckless, and so I can't really say you should or shouldn't have made that play. Obviously, you thought your pocket pair was strong enough to hold up against 2 other players (and in fact survived against 3 players) - nice job on winning the chips.
I wouldn't normally have posted anything, but I have never knocked out more than one player on a single hand- much less 3. I love the game of poker, I love the challenge, I don't love my bankroll (Which ususally floats only somewhat above zero). Sorry if the thread was a waste of time to anyone here...
  
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I wouldn't normally have posted anything, but I have never knocked out more than one player on a single hand- much less 3. I love the game of poker, I love the challenge, I don't love my bankroll (Which ususally floats only somewhat above zero). Sorry if the thread was a waste of time to anyone here...

Wasnt a waste of time by any means.Its a poker site and thats a poker hand..The owner put one out himself the other day.Its a forum to help players become better players...as well as brag or bitch....I tend to the second one alot myself lately
You made a move to get the shortstack all in by yourself and you had a big enough stack you werent going to be put out ,but they were.Aggressive move that worked out very nicely.Good or bad? I cant say,but I can say I wouldve made the same in that spot.Very nice triple shot and congrats .
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Well done on winning the pot with 1010. Never happens for me but congrats all the same
I never play freerolls, as they tend to give out too little prize money for the time you have to invest in them.
  
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As a general rule, I think it should be stated that individual hand histories - especially those from freerolls...shouldn't be posted asking for advice. No offense, chickenman, but the fact poker isn't just about the cards, its about getting a read on the players and the type of game they play. As a general rule of thumb most freeroll players are overly reckless, and so I can't really say you should or shouldn't have made that play. Obviously, you thought your pocket pair was strong enough to hold up against 2 other players (and in fact survived against 3 players) - nice job on winning the chips.

I understand what you are saying to a point.But I think you may have misread what he was saying(or I did).He wasnt sure if the move was right,but he was more or less wanting to show the end result ,not asking for advice but at the same time leaving it open for opinions..As far as it being a freeroll,that shouldnt really matter ,he is still playing to win real money.
Every level of mtts tend to be different.1,3,5,10.......freerolls are just the first stepping stone
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As far as it being a freeroll,that shouldnt really matter ,he is still playing to win real money.
Which I managed to do. Finished 18th out of a field of 900. 2 bucks for a night's work. Not a lot of payout, but it was a lot of fun.

If this had been merely a PP holding up to two overcards, I'd have been ho hum, so what else is new? But knocking three folks out (After about 45 minutes of play) on a single hand was exciting, at least to me.
  
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I'm not sure that it was a great play. Obviously I don't know what the players were like, however in a free roll people will call you with A2 and hope "but my ace is good isnt it?"
With as many players in the pot as there were going to be you're very likely to have pocket 10's beaten. However congratulations on wiping them out!
  
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I'm okay with it because it was a raise to isolate. If the other preflop caller looks you up, only 1/3 of your stack is at risk, and you still have plenty of time.

Once you decide to play this, moving all in is probably the best option to avoid being outplayed postflop. But outside of a freeroll I would only make that move if I was getting short on chips.
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I dont see a problem with posting Hand Histories. Actually, its posted in the thread named "Hand Histories". Thats why we are here. If we cant give logical advice based on player tendancies then we can ask the original poster for more information.

As for the hand Chickenman theres nothing wrong with trying to double or triple early in a freeroll. In fact its probably the advised play. But beware that other players will be trying to do the same. The more people in the pot the better the odds each opponent is getting to enter. 10's is probably not the hand to do this but i see you were only trying to isolate the original raiser. A funny thing happened to me a few weeks ago. I had 10's or jacks, I cant recall exactly, and was the shortstack so i pushed All-in in an attempt to steal some blinds. I was called by 3 callers, in which they all held A-K. They had 2 outs between the 3 of them. And don't you know the case Ace hit the flop. LOL. If you knew your opponents had AK, AK, and AJ. they had 6 outs between the 3 of them. Then you made the right decision.
  
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