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Old 03-18-2006, 07:01 PM
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I think I had them. And I was in profit on this table by a fair amount. Admitadly I maybe shouldn't have called a raise pre-flop however 6 handed and for £2 i'll take my chances happily. Boy did I get moaned at when I won!

------HAND 1------
Game #1922570063: Hold'em NL (£0.50/£1) - 2006/03/18 - 17:50:04 (BST)
Table "Michelle" Seat 5 is the button.
Seat 1: champ18 (£35 in chips)
Seat 2: HobsterX (£115.69 in chips)
Seat 3: sparky161 (£62.88 in chips)
Seat 4: ___fox___ (£36.75 in chips)
Seat 5: Pancamo (£156.75 in chips)
Seat 6: Boshmosh (£97.50 in chips)
Boshmosh: posts small blind £0.50
champ18: posts big blind £1
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HobsterX [7c 9c]
HobsterX: calls £1
sparky161: calls £1
___fox___: raises to £3
Pancamo: folds
Boshmosh: calls £2.50
champ18: folds
HobsterX: calls £2
sparky161: calls £2
----- FLOP ----- [Ts Ac 8s]
Boshmosh: bets £10
HobsterX: calls £10
sparky161: folds
___fox___: raises to £33.75 and is all-in
Boshmosh: calls £23.75
HobsterX: calls £23.75
----- TURN ----- [Ts Ac 8s][3h]
Boshmosh: checks
HobsterX: checks
----- RIVER ----- [Ts Ac 8s 3h][Jc]
Boshmosh: checks
HobsterX: bets £25
Boshmosh: folds
Returned uncalled bets £25 to HobsterX
----- SHOW DOWN -----
HobsterX: shows [7c 9c] (A Straight, Jack high)
___fox___: shows [Tc Ah] (Two Pairs, Aces and Tens, Jack high)
HobsterX collects £111.25 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot £114.25 Main pot £111.25 Rake £3
Board [Ts Ac 8s 3h Jc]
Seat 1: champ18 (big blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: HobsterX showed [7c 9c] and won (£111.25) with A Straight, Jack high
Seat 3: sparky161 folded on the Flop
Seat 4: ___fox___ showed [Tc Ah] and lost
Seat 5: Pancamo (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Boshmosh (small blind) folded on the River
  
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your first call preflop was sketchy IMO, on the flop with a little better than 2:1 pot odds it's just barely a correct call??? but your implied odds are good with 2 people yet to call behind you, after the raise, you had almost 4:1 to call.

your odds of hitting the open ended are about 2:1, making your first call on the flop just legitimate. The call where ytou were offerered 4:1 is a good situation for your hand. Of course it wasn't the nut straight draw which would have slowed me down... I hope my math is right, I'm only starting to post my thoughts on odds and the math of this game, please feel free to correct me, because I'm still a little new to this aspect of the game. It's why I signed up here in the first place.

But, none the less, very nice pot.

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1) don't call before the flop, raise or fold it.
2) overcalling before the flop is probably okay this point, but I'm not fond of it.
3) If that T was a club you call, otherwise I fold to this flop. If they don't have an ace, (or and overpair to you) what could you possibly put them on here?
4) you have 10 outs, two 9s and two 8s, 3 Jacks, 3 6s. That's best case, but the Jacks would give a better straight possibility so you can only count them for half, so you have 8.5 outs. You are 4.8-1 against to win this hand,. The pot is:
1+.5+1+1+3+2.5+2+2+10+10+33.75+23.75=90.5
and it's 23.75 to call, you are getting 3.8-1 twice, you call it on the flop, and fold it on the turn.

But don't call before the flop. Raise it or muck it if you are first to commit chips.
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