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I was stunned,instant tilt Hand Histories
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03-16-2006, 04:06 AM
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PokerStars Game #4302030485: Tournament #21391151, Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2006/03/15 - 21:58:44 (ET)
Table '21391151 1' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Three5Ten (1540 in chips)
Seat 2: Shadoking (1380 in chips)
Seat 3: Paul Delfgou (1460 in chips)
Seat 4: Biggg E (1360 in chips)
Seat 5: canuckynooky (1480 in chips)
Seat 6: xtra money2 (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: andreyy06 (1780 in chips)
Seat 8: gwarden (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: bigshooter41 (1500 in chips)
canuckynooky: posts small blind 10
xtra money2: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to xtra money2 [Kh 8d]
andreyy06: calls 20
gwarden: folds
bigshooter41: calls 20
Three5Ten: calls 20
Shadoking: folds
Paul Delfgou: calls 20
Biggg E: calls 20
canuckynooky: calls 10
xtra money2: checks
*** FLOP *** [8h 7s Ks]
canuckynooky: bets 200
xtra money2: raises 200 to 400
andreyy06: folds
bigshooter41: folds
Three5Ten: folds
Paul Delfgou: raises 1040 to 1440 and is all-in
Biggg E: folds
canuckynooky: raises 20 to 1460 and is all-in
xtra money2: calls 1060
*** TURN *** [8h 7s Ks] [3s]
*** RIVER *** [8h 7s Ks 3s] [7d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
canuckynooky: shows [Kc 7h] (a full house, Sevens full of Kings)
xtra money2: shows [Kh 8d] (two pair, Kings and Eights)
canuckynooky collected 40 from side pot
Paul Delfgou: shows [7c Kd] (a full house, Sevens full of Kings)
canuckynooky collected 2230 from main pot
Paul Delfgou collected 2230 from main pot
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03-16-2006, 04:26 AM
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WOW thats about as bad as it gets. Tough beat Xtra. | | |
03-16-2006, 04:28 AM
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Frankly, as early as it was in the tourney and 2 people go all-in after my raise, I'm folding 2 pair. The 2 that went all-in were idiots. We all make mistakes early in tourneys. I busted out on the first hand of a THF game when my flopped trip 3's were beaten by flopped trip K's. In your case, holding 2 pair, I'm afraid one of the 2 are going to have trips. You didn't have much invested, so a fold would have been easy. | | |
03-16-2006, 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Slow Ray Frankly, as early as it was in the tourney and 2 people go all-in after my raise, I'm folding 2 pair. The 2 that went all-in were idiots. We all make mistakes early in tourneys. I busted out on the first hand of a THF game when my flopped trip 3's were beaten by flopped trip K's. In your case, holding 2 pair, I'm afraid one of the 2 are going to have trips. You didn't have much invested, so a fold would have been easy. |
Im too stubborn to fold there,I could live with making that call and being beat by trips  There was only 1 card that could hurt me in the deck,and it shows on the river,I considered myself a winner
I win and lose on the river just like everyone else,but with 2 K7s out there....I liked my chances(a whole lot).I made the right call,just got beat 
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03-16-2006, 07:38 AM
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If i read the hand correctly theres also a possible flush draw out there. Anyone holding any 2 spades has got to think about calling in that situation. Still you did have the best hand when you put your money in. | | |
03-16-2006, 07:46 AM
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Ray is correct in that a fold might be appropriate since you saw two others all-in in front of you, but it is quite tough to do that. Top two pair are usually good, but there is a possibility of a set and a flush chaser (or even straight draw chaser, but you wouldn't expect anyone to have that). It's a tough play and a tough loss on the one outer.
I know it's hard to deal with hands like that sometimes, but really you need to just shake it off. Maybe take a break for a few hours and clear your head. | | |
03-16-2006, 07:03 PM
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Early in a tourney is all about survival, and risking all your chips with only two pair cost you. I know with all the bad players who try and bluff with nothing always enters into our minds cause us to make some bad decisions, but a thoughtful fold is never a bad one. | | |
03-17-2006, 12:26 AM
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I just looked at it like this ,two are in...one has AK and one has a flushdraw,,maybe trips or AA.Or maybe its suited conectors that caught an open straight.If 2 are on draws and win with a HI card Im booting myself in the ass.To me it was worth the chance...if that 7 dont hit the river and I fold,Id be booting myself.I think I made the right call,I dont regret it at all,I only regret the river card.
Ive seen enough people go all in after the flop if they catch a piece.If everyone is going to fold the top2 pair on an all in eveytime unless they have trips or a draw,then after every flop Id be going all in
It was risky,but Im not afraid to gamble with what I was holding.
P.S considering the ending........dang I wish I had folded 
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Last edited by xtra; 03-17-2006 at 12:32 AM.
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03-17-2006, 07:11 AM
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I call there all day long with that flop and top 2 pair. If guy is chasing flush he is way behind in the hand anyways. A set is possible, but having top 2 pair makes him having a set of 8s or Ks is very very very highly unlikely, although a set of 7s is also more logical but smart players with a set there, facing a raise, would more likely raise or smooth call not scare you with an all-in. Bottom line is you had the guys drawing to one card and pokerstars showed you anything is possible. I can't see how you fold and give up, what more times than not, an easy double up, or in this case an easy triple up. I honestly think a fold there is playing scared poker, so good call X ......... nice F'in river Stars.
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03-17-2006, 04:20 PM
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You were trapped into the hand by being the BB. Nothing you could do. In any other seat I toss k8o. How to avoid this trap is to fold preflop. The hand has to many callers and you can't raise because you have a crap hand. I've done it many times. If I am the big blind and everyone calls 9 out of 10 I will lose the hand. To many people will say "I must protect my BB" can't let people push me around. I say who cares so early in game. Take my 20 chips. I will wait to risk more when it is worth more. I love it, when early in the game people raise my big blind, because if I have a hand I can compete with a raise is okay and most likely I will not have a hand and can fold and not get trapped. I realize my method goes against all teaching but think about it. You have 20 chips invested in a hand and you have a big raise and call in front of you. Wouldn't you be better off saving your chips for a situation where you are the aggressor. Does it really upset you that much when you lose 20 chips to a bluff. Someone said " if you never get bluffed you'er calling to much". I do much better when I do not compete with the other players. It's almost impossible to toss 2 pair in your situation but wouldn't you rather risk all your chips when it is your idea and not someone else's idea. | | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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