2-4 off suit bad???

PokerStars Game #2796405050: Tournament #13466944, Hold'em No Limit - Level X (400/800) - 2005/10/13 - 19:10:03 (ET)
Table '13466944 25' Seat #7 is the button
Seat 3: scoobz_2324 (2115 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 4: Ace Johnson (27513 in chips)
Seat 5: LeMorte (17979 in chips)
Seat 7: kjekkenOMA (12851 in chips)
Seat 8: mager430 (59177 in chips)
Seat 9: Riddick19 (54876 in chips)
scoobz_2324: posts the ante 50
Ace Johnson: posts the ante 50
LeMorte: posts the ante 50
kjekkenOMA: posts the ante 50
mager430: posts the ante 50
Riddick19: posts the ante 50
mager430: posts small blind 400
Riddick19: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Riddick19 [4h 2d]
scoobz_2324: folds
Ace Johnson: folds
LeMorte: calls 800
kjekkenOMA: folds
mager430: raises 800 to 1600
Riddick19: calls 800
LeMorte: calls 800
*** FLOP *** [6h 5d 3c]
mager430: bets 2400
Riddick19: calls 2400
LeMorte: calls 2400
*** TURN *** [6h 5d 3c] [8h]
mager430: bets 1600
Riddick19: raises 1600 to 3200
LeMorte: raises 10729 to 13929 and is all-in
chienvichai is connected
mager430: calls 12329
Riddick19: raises 36897 to 50826 and is all-in
mager430: calls 36897
*** RIVER *** [6h 5d 3c 8h] [4s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
mager430: shows [Qh Qc] (a pair of Queens)
Riddick19: shows [4h 2d] (a straight, Deuce to Six)
Riddick19 said, "=o"
Riddick19 collected 73794 from side pot
LeMorte: shows [8s 8c] (three of a kind, Eights)
Riddick19 said, "LOL"
Ace Johnson said, "thats brutal"
Riddick19 collected 54087 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 127881 Main pot 54087. Side pot 73794. | Rake 0
Board [6h 5d 3c 8h 4s]
Seat 3: scoobz_2324 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Ace Johnson folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: LeMorte showed [8s 8c] and lost with three of a kind, Eights
Seat 7: kjekkenOMA (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: mager430 (small blind) showed [Qh Qc] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 9: Riddick19 (big blind) showed [4h 2d] and won (127881) with a straight, Deuce to Six

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not at all - in the big blind such a small raise is easy to call particularly if you are against players who will risk all their chips on an over pair. You wont flop a straight or 2 pair or trips very often but when you do you can get VERY well rewarded. Quite what qq is doing only limping in with a small bet at this stage in a tourney and then willing to risk ALL there chips is another matter - that kind of play will get you fried in the long run.

24player played this hand perfectly others far less so - I feel sorry for 88 player - Hard to fold but straights were on the board. In short qq POOR play, 88 ok

calling almost ANYTHING in the BB to a single raise with his chip stack is normally the correct play - hands with near nut potential like 34s,24s more so 27os could be legitimately folded and k2 is a hand that could easily get an inexperienced player in a lot of trouble but low suited connectors even with 1 gap are very playable here - even the 88 play should have started suspecting a rat - but it was really a very hard fold on his part and on average his play was fine he will have the best hand here most of the time UNLESS he is very risk adverse his play is fine.

Once in a while I will play a "bad hand" if I can afford to, in good possition, with a minimum raise in front of me. As Ben said, you can clean up if you hit the flop right, and then you feel guilty for winning. The guys with the pocket pairs wanted some action with that weak raise and got some to your delight. Nice move.

i play 24 off once every tourney, in homage to my great friend kaartkeizer

Aaaahhh, the sweet smell of 42o. Always a good wheel maker.

And goblue even won making a flush with his 42o.

Saying 42o is a good gamble even with low blinds is like saying shooting into the air when you see nothing is a good way to go dunk hunting. You might accidentally catch a hand but for the most part your throwing away chips. If your in the BB and there has been no raise then any two cards is always worth the flop but I would never say to call in EP, MP, LP or SB with 42o. If your gonna play that way you might as well see the flop with 72o and hands such as these. Again once in awhile you might win but more times then most your giving away chips.

actually ur8up, 72 offsuit is a agreat hand and fink and i can attest too.
when i have a big chip stack, i like to raise with 72 off bc it wins.

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I agree with Ur...why waste chips on needless calls, you can use them for a more worthwile call...and Jro, you win because of your raise not because of 72o....and you can raise with any two cards in the right situation and win....don't go duck hunting in blank skies, shooting in case something flies into your line of fire....you might get lucky one day and even hit a duck, but you will go through a truckload of shells before you do!

lol preachin to the choir here crapshoot, i was just making fun in this thread as everyone above.

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