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Old 08-10-2008, 01:50 PM
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If a player raises and a next player hasn't got enough money to follow him and he goes all in,and if the player who didn't had enough money to call(went all in) wins this turn,how are the winnings divided,does he win the whole lot(which is not fair because he obviously risked less money) or is it done in some other fashion, if two players have the same cards (but with different signs,sorry for probably using wrong terms) in their hands (and they win) are the winnings divided or there can be only one winner which is decided by comparing other cards on the desk? Thanks a lot!
  
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If a player raises and a next player hasn't got enough money to follow him and he goes all in,and if the player who didn't had enough money to call(went all in) wins this turn,how are the winnings divided,does he win the whole lot(which is not fair because he obviously risked less money) or is it done in some other fashion,
The player who is allin gets back double the amount he put into the pot plus the blinds.
ie Assuming there is only one opponent in the hand - if his stack was 250 and the blinds were 25/50, he'll win 575 from the pot.
The original raiser gets back the remainder since this part of the bet hasn't been matched.


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if two players have the same cards (but with different signs,sorry for probably using wrong terms) in their hands (and they win) are the winnings divided or there can be only one winner which is decided by comparing other cards on the desk? Thanks a lot!
Not quite sure what you're asking here.
The best 5 card hand is made from your two hole cards and the cards on the board.
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if two players have the same cards (but with different signs,sorry for probably using wrong terms) in their hands (and they win) are the winnings divided or there can be only one winner which is decided by comparing other cards on the desk? Thanks a lot!
yes, the pot is split...the only games in which the signs (suits) are used as a rank are stud games, but only to establish who has to open the first round of betting, and at some sites that high card for button on sit n go
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[quote=7letters;177464]Hi marinhcst, welcome to the forum.



The player who is allin gets back double the amount he put into the pot plus the blinds.
ie Assuming there is only one opponent in the hand - if his stack was 250 and the blinds were 25/50, he'll win 575 from the pot.
The original raiser gets back the remainder since this part of the bet hasn't been matched.QUOTE]

A player can not get more than he has put in. The blinds (if folded) would be a part of the pot, not above and beyond it, hence an all-in of 250 could win 575. In the case of the blinds being BIGGER than the all-in the difference would be returned to the person who placed the blind bet.
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Last edited by CardLovinCat; 08-11-2008 at 08:34 PM. Reason: Correction made after error brought to my attention by Kaart. Sorry 7 for confusing your already clear answer.
  
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[quote=marinhcst;177460]If a player raises and a next player hasn't got enough money to follow him and he goes all in,and if the player who didn't had enough money to call(went all in) wins this turn,how are the winnings divided,does he win the whole lot(which is not fair because he obviously risked less money) or is it done in some other fashion, QUOTE]

A main pot is established based on the smallest chip bet (that amount is taken from each player inluding any blinds that were folded), then aa side pot is established with the chips remaining from the other 2 players. If the 2 players still have chips, any future bets go into the side pot. The all-in would only be eligible for the main pot, while the other 2 players would be eligible to win both the main and side pot.

ie. Blinds 25/50 (are folded)
Plyr 1 bet 350
Plyr 2 all-in 250
Plyr 4 call 350

Main pot 825 (Plyr 1,2,4 can win)

Side pot 200 (Plyr 1,4 can win)


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if two players have the same cards (but with different signs,sorry for probably using wrong terms) in their hands (and they win) are the winnings divided or there can be only one winner which is decided by comparing other cards on the desk? Thanks a lot!

In NL Texas Holdem "suit" makes no difference. They would be divided equally.

ie. Plyr 1 AcKc
Plyr 2 AhKh

Board Jc 10h 9s 7s 2c

Pot is award equally. Note: If pot has a chip that can not be divided equally that chip goes to the player nearest the dealer button.
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The player who is allin gets back double the amount he put into the pot plus the blinds.
ie Assuming there is only one opponent in the hand - if his stack was 250 and the blinds were 25/50, he'll win 575 from the pot.
The original raiser gets back the remainder since this part of the bet hasn't been matched.QUOTE]

A player can not get more than he has put in. The blinds (if folded) would be a part of the pot, not above and beyond it, hence an all-in of 250 could win 500. In the case of the blinds being BIGGER than the all-in the difference would be returned to the person who placed the blind bet.
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Thank you 7. Well after all I am a poker dealer so I better know this stuff.
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A player can not get more than he has put in. The blinds (if folded) would be a part of the pot, not above and beyond it, hence an all-in of 250 could win 500. In the case of the blinds being BIGGER than the all-in the difference would be returned to the person who placed the blind bet.
Correct me if I'm wrong and maybe I just misunderstand your post. If the shortstack goes All In with 250 and gets called by someone out of the blinds the pot is 575, isn't it?
If he gets called by the small blind the pot is 550 and if the big blind calls the pot is 525.
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