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What $$ limit does a beginner start at?

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Old 12-22-2007, 06:27 AM
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First thing before you can out play them for me is I got a set game plan. I use it as a guide like playing tight until you see who does what. Until then you are gambling.

You want skill to keep you in the game and not blind luck. Yes I see blind luck working all the time, but most of the final tables I have been to it was skill and know how that brought me there.

Question is do you have a set game plan yet? I have found three that I like and use.

Let's face until you got a game plan do free rolls and experiment until you got one you like and win with.

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Well I am starting off with free rolls. Like I said I'm not into being stupid & throwing/giving $$ away when I don't know what I'm doing yet. Been doing a lot of reading for strategy etc.
  
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i would start low on line to get the feel of it because you'll see things online that you will rarely see anywhere else//
  
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Well I am starting off with free rolls. Like I said I'm not into being stupid & throwing/giving $$ away when I don't know what I'm doing yet. Been doing a lot of reading for strategy etc.
Reading and doing are two different things. Do you journal your play at all. I do and keep track of other plyers as well.

That way you can review the strategy you have used. How many tables or games do you play at the same time? To many was my mistake. Also Horse tournaments at same time as holdem or razz (ouch big mistake for me).

First get one game style down and then branch out from there. Because you got to change gears and styles or you will to easy to read. Good players pick up on that.

Good luck and hunting for your private groove and styles.
  
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Reading poker books and online strategies and doing are very different, but it's a good start and shows a willingness to learn and improve which should translate onto the table if you are prepared to take the game remotely seriously.

I've never bothered with making journals but I always add notes to players at the table that provide obvious tells, such as betting patterns, hands they are willing to overplay, do they like to trap. If I get enough information I'll rate their ability and add a strategy hint on how to extract the most equity from them.

Journals can be useful, or another thing to do is record the hand history of particular hands, normally losing ones where you put too much in the pot (or your stack) and try and learn from the errors. Winning hands are easy to play, recognizing losing hands is much harder to understand.

I've found that learning from mistakes is the best way to improve. Something basic like you re-raise a preflop raise with pocket Queens, it's folded around to the initial raiser who goes all-in with a big stack. Do you call or fold. Generally I expect any poor player to just call it and hope for the best.

This kind of situation will come up very often, either with you in the pot or a couple of other players going for it. There is no absolute answer to this, with several layers of questions to be answered first; stacks sizes, tournament or cash, the player you are up against, and so on. You will only know the best play in this situation once you've seen it play out many, many times and are able to pin down the answers instinctively.

Another good training tip is to study the hands you are not in, and attempt to work out who has the best hand, who's still drawing, and even what cards they maybe playing. It will help you play against the table when you are active in a hand and increase your overall skill at the same time.

By using the above technique I now have a good read on people holding sets/trips (pocket pair and the third on the table). A set versus top pair/or over pocket pair to the board are common and costly situations, and likely to the most costly or lucrative hands to get involved with. These hands play out virtually the same way every time, making them easier to spot than you'd expect.

Anyhow, you've lots to learn and it can be frustrating, but when things finally click into place you'll really start to enjoy the game. I could just be a slow learner, but it has taken me around 18 months to really feel confident with my overall game at the levels I play, yet I've remained profitable through this period.

Things may take a faster route for you, but don't expect a quick learning curve.
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Thanks for the advice. I'm in no hurry. I'm a music teacher (teach guitar & piano professionally) so I know how to learn & be a student. That's why I'm taking my time. If I don't have the fundamentals down I'll simply be a crap player like my cousin. I'm also very realistic I'm not going to kid myself. But I'm going to devour everything I can get my hands on & play, play, play.
  
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with:1$----2/4 limit hold'em
2$----1/2 no limit hold/em
5$----2/5limit hold'em

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i agree you should start with .01/.02 ring games especially if u bankroll is less than $50 dollars and dont be suprised if u run into a good player on the .01/.02 ring games they swoop down like vultures to take out the donks at the low limit tables.
  
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