Checking My Reads

I want to know what you put him on. I chose to check because if I was going to represent an A I would not bet here. I would like other opinions. I will post results later.

PokerStars Game #xxxxxxxxxxx: Tournament #xxxxxxxxx, $3.00+$0.25 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2010/02/07 12:25:56 ET
Table 'xxxxxxxxx 1' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: viakal491 (1360 in chips)
Seat 2: vottiuj (1815 in chips)
Seat 4: TonyD59 (3090 in chips)
Seat 5: CardLovinCat (1235 in chips)
Seat 6: Lumina3477 (1500 in chips)
vottiuj: posts small blind 15
TonyD59: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to CardLovinCat [Ts Th]
CardLovinCat: raises 90 to 120
Lumina3477: calls 120
viakal491: folds
vottiuj: folds
TonyD59: folds
*** FLOP *** [5s Ad Ah]
CardLovinCat: checks
Lumina3477: bets 210
CardLovinCat: ?

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Hmm, its very hard to get much info here. He could have called preflop with any PP, KQ, KJ, QJ, maybe even KTs. I mean, he has position on you and can call with a wide variety of hands. If I am in your position, I put out a 1/2 pot bet to gain information. If he calls, then you have a better idea that he may have an Ace or something like JJ. By checking to him you gain no information. He has position and with your check, may be trying to represent an Ace.

But you really put yourself in a tough position. You have no more information now than you did when he called your bet. If you want to gain info in this situation, you have to re-raise and see what he does. But with your stack you would be quite low if he moves all in and you are forced to fold. With blinds at 15/30 though, you have some room to get back in it.

In summary, I would lead out on the flop to get some information. This is the cheapest way to get a good idea where you are at.

More often than not they won't bet a 3rd A on the flop

I smooth call, check raise the turn. I think that screams trips.

Either way I think you're good here.

P.S. In a cash game I might actually bet an ace here because no one ever expects you to. You'll get a lot of value from medium pocket pairs because they're going to have a very hard time folding.

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depending on how the guy plays.. he also could have flat called pre with a small A hoping for a flop like this.. considering the plays ive seen lately its even entirely possible that he called pre with a high A... 6 man or not people play strangely sometimes

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I do this often

I think it's probably the best hand so I say raise to protect it from J to K falling on the turn. Dare I say it but I'd go for a min raise on the basis it looks stronger and might get him to fold JJ+, or alternatively it might get a donk to get clingy and call, getting hopeful with a pocket pair, or make a move on you.

I think you are committed and have to get all your chips in if he reshoves on you though, which is pretty horiffic, but I would still play it this way.

My thinking was to represent an A, so when he bet I decided HE didn't have one. I was going to smooth call and push on the turn as long as there was no paint. If paint showed up I would have to check and fold to his bet and wait for a better spot. Welll....this happened instead. And much to my surprise he had a BIG A. Boy was my read off. After the hand he said to me "you can't fix stupid." I thought he was the stupid one for betting as I read it as minus the A. If he checked it the same results would have happened. He was screwed either way. Nothing short of him pushing a huge bet on the flop was going to change the results. Any opinions about this?


PokerStars Game #xxxxxxxxxxx: Tournament #xxxxxxxxx, $3.00+$0.25 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2010/02/07 12:25:56 ET
Table 'xxxxxxxxx 1' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: viakal491 (1360 in chips)
Seat 2: vottiuj (1815 in chips)
Seat 4: TonyD59 (3090 in chips)
Seat 5: CardLovinCat (1235 in chips)
Seat 6: Lumina3477 (1500 in chips)
vottiuj: posts small blind 15
TonyD59: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to CardLovinCat [Ts Th]
CardLovinCat: raises 90 to 120
Lumina3477: calls 120
viakal491: folds
vottiuj: folds
TonyD59: folds
*** FLOP *** [5s Ad Ah]
CardLovinCat: checks
Lumina3477: bets 210
CardLovinCat: calls 210
*** TURN *** [5s Ad Ah] [Tc]
CardLovinCat: bets 905 and is all-in
Lumina3477: calls 905
*** RIVER *** [5s Ad Ah Tc] [Jc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
CardLovinCat: shows [Ts Th] (a full house, Tens full of Aces)
Lumina3477: shows [As Kd] (three of a kind, Aces)
CardLovinCat collected 2515 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2515 | Rake 0
Board [5s Ad Ah Tc Jc]
Seat 1: viakal491 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: vottiuj (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: TonyD59 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: CardLovinCat showed [Ts Th] and won (2515) with a full house, Tens full of Aces
Seat 6: Lumina3477 showed [As Kd] and lost with three of a kind, Aces

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W00T! i told you.. them donks do some crazy things

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